Chiefs vs Wales, June 14
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<p>Just got back from the game. Well that was a fun night out! :mocking:</p>
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<p>It was very noticeable live how slow the majority of the Welsh backs were, both in being able to manipulate the Chiefs' defensive line and then recognising the space out wide when there were opportunities. Morgan was the most dangerous back but the rest were very ordinary. Roberts looked ponderous.</p>
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<p>We all expected the Chiefs to run out of gas in the last 20 mins but that never happened. It was hard to single out one Chiefs player over another but I was really impressed with Lowe at FB and the loose forwards. A standing ovation when Beaver left the field too.</p>
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<p>Biggest defeat of Wales in a provincial game now.</p>
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<p>In NZ anyway. NSW did them by about 70 odd in the early 90s from memory.</p> -
<p>This slightly annoying thing called work has interfered with my rugby viewing so no chance to watch the game but this has to be a huge setback for Wales.</p>
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<p>Brendan Gallagher ... thought this was good:</p>
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<p><span style="color:rgb(41,47,51);font-family:Arial, sans-serif;font-size:26px;background-color:rgb(245,248,250);">Gatland criticised 4 arranging Waikato game.Bollox Midweek thumping in NZ great reality check and rites of passage for most British players!</span></p> -
<p>Not long home from the game.</p>
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<p>Wow. Wales were so fucking bad it was a bit hard to watch at times. All they did was crab left and right, lose ground, then crab left and right a whole lot more. With the exception of the Welsh 14 who zipped everywhere, and the 16 who scored from the one decent move they made all game, the rest were crap. The scrum was a shambles, the backs looked slow and ponderous, and the Chiefs had their number on defence all night.</p>
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<p>As for the Chiefs, it was obvious from the haka that they were VERY fired up. And it showed. Superb defence, especially on the line, great running rugby and some fucking awesome tries. They just kept splitting the Welsh backline. And that last snatched pick up by MacNicol to score, just iced the cake really. Beaver was everywhere and led from the front, charging around like someone 15 years younger. Weber was zippy, Lowe showed some great stepping, but really, the Chiefs were excellent across the park.</p>
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<p>I sweat to god that ref was blowing the whistle out of sympathy for the Welsh, cos there were some retarded calls made. But at the end of the day, they were creamed. Most of those dudes spat on the Welsh jersey tonight. Terrible, terrible performance.</p> -
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<p>Brendan Gallagher ... thought this was good:</p>
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<p><span style="color:rgb(41,47,51);font-family:Arial, sans-serif;font-size:26px;background-color:rgb(245,248,250);">Gatland criticised 4 arranging Waikato game.Bollox Midweek thumping in NZ great reality check and rites of passage for most British players!</span></p>
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<p>Bollocks to rite of passage.</p>
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<p>Even Hansen queried as to why Wales would choose to play a midweek game in a 3-test series.</p>
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<p>Demoralising for squad. No doubt a great feather in cap for the Chiefs.</p>
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<p>Garland had a response for his players though: <span style="color:rgb(73,73,73);font-family:'PT Sans', sans-serif;font-size:16px;"> “A number of players have been asking me personally about what they needed to do, wanting an opportunity and why they have not been selected for the Test team.</span></p>
<p style="font-size:16px;font-family:'PT Sans', sans-serif;color:rgb(73,73,73);">After this performance there’s some fairly simple answers that can be said. The players have got to be honest, go away, look in the mirrior and learn from what happened tonight.â€</p> -
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Mike - my sincere condolences to you and the other Welsh lads in these difficult times <br><br><br>
Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk</p></blockquote>Sad part is we're pretty much used to shite like that. Doesn't shock anymore.<br>
Don't know why the game was arranged but pretty pointless from a Welsh perspective. Starting someone like Warburton & bringing on Faletau - these guys must've been out on their feet after Saturday. Seems like an accident waiting to happen with injury etc. -
<p>Disaster for Wales , not much gained there </p>
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<p> with the benefit of hindsight , it almost comes across like Gatland looking after his own personal interests , but not Wales </p> -
Haha hilarious. I only got to watch the bit after half time when Wales had a million phases, had nothing more than individual pick and go, and made -20m. How can an international team be so clueless?<br><br>
Onya Chiefs 2nds.<br><br>
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<p>Haha hilarious. I only got to watch the bit after half time when Wales had a million phases, had nothing more than individual pick and go, and made -20m. How can an international team be so clueless?<br><br>
Onya Chiefs 2nds.<br><br>
So what do Wales have to do to break even on this tour now?</p>
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<p>A win v NZ is the answer. However this is looking less and less likely.</p> -
I would have thought that makes it a success. <br><br>
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Disaster for Wales , not much gained there <br><br>
with the benefit of hindsight , it almost comes across like Gatland looking after his own personal interests , but not Wales</p></blockquote>
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Playing a midweek game is fine, England did a few years ago, Aus and SA have pretty regularly on EOYT.<br><br>
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I think the last time that I winced as much whilst watching a rugby match was during the '98 Tour of Hell. The big difference for me then was vs now was that I knew the quality (or lack thereof) of the England squad, so painful though the games were to watch, the results weren't that surprising.<br><br>
The scale and manner of today's defeat for the Welsh was horrible to watch, from a British perspective. I don't enjoy seeing a weak Wales, it's bad for 6N, but genuine depth just doesn't seem to be there currently.<br><br>
How long before the WRU's grassroots coaching and player pathways are planned to start bearing fruit? And will they really stick with Gatland and Co. until 2019? -
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<p>I would have thought that makes it a success.<br><br>
I thought break even was 3 credible performances and beating the Chiefs</p>
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<p>Prior to today's result I would say you're right. But to make this tour a break even they have to do a bit more now I feel. Otherwise it's a disaster.</p> -
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<p>Man. Who was 22? Watched the second half on silent. Immense on defence and great on attack. If Chiefs defended like that every game we would win the Super Comp</p>
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<p>The Chiefs 22 was Sam McNicol.</p>
