Hurricanes vs Highlanders
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<p>Lads, any news on why Wheeler is out of the 23? He will be missed from a Landers point of view.</p>
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<p>Can't see the Canes getting within 14 let alone winning this even with them playing at home.</p>
<p>Hilghlanders would need a big slump in form to drop this one but with NZ derbys anything could happen. Looking at the table a draw would be the ideal result</p> -
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<p>If the Canes are going to get up in this one they will have to win it through the middle. They will have to emulate something similar to the Crusaders tactics in the first 10 minutes against them a few weeks ago and suck their outsides in, earning the right to go wide. </p>
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<p>I give this quote 5 TSF stars....</p>
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<p>Me and my mate have been brainstorming all week actual tactics that can compete with Joseph's game plan which right now seems unstoppable.</p>
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<p>Finally we landed on what you have written. Win it by going up the guts.</p>
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<p>None of this spin it wide and beat them down the flanks with fancy foot work. </p>
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<p>Just honest hard toil, hard yards, hard nosed metres, the whole pack just running it up over and past the advantage line. Rinse and repeat.</p>
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<p>If the Canes want to win this will be won up front and through simple power running.</p>
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<p>That might not be exactly what you are saying as you want them to take a leaf out of the Saders book which was to switch back to the inside runner - but I agree with the general principle of not going wide too quickly.</p> -
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<p>Lads, any news on why Wheeler is out of the 23? He will be missed from a Landers point of view.</p>
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<p>Does his replacement franklin do well in the set piece?</p>
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<p>Reddish apparently returning to the bench could be a useful half time replacement.</p>
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Franklin is the Highlanders premier lock. Big engine, great in the lineout and keeps going all day.<br><br>
Joey has been out and out dropped, his discipline has been a bit rubbish recently and deserves a kick up the arse.</p> -
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<p>Can't see the Canes getting within 14 let alone winning this even with them playing at home.</p>
<p>Hilghlanders would need a big slump in form to drop this one but with NZ derbys anything could happen. Looking at the table a draw would be the ideal result</p>
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<p>So your saying the Highlanders are going to win by 14 or more. That's a bit insane wouldn't you think. Canes at home at nearly full strength bar Broadhurst and Skudder are not going to go down without a fight. They have a fair chance of winning this game. You only have to go back to Napier last year where the Canes put 56 points on the Highlanders pretty comfortably. If they get it right it could be 14 or more the other way.</p> -
If saying the Highlanders are 14 points better is absurd, then bring up the Napier game is ridiculous. That game was a complete anomaly. Let's look at the two teams this Hurricanes team is with out Ben Franks, James Broadhurst, Ma's Nonu, Conrad Smith and Nehe Milner Skudder. This team is a shadow of the side that took the paddock in Napier that night. Plus they were riding on the emotion of Jerry Collins' death. While the Highlanders rested Ben Smith, Aaron Smith and Mala Fekitoa. They had already decided they would lose before running out on the paddock.
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<p>There was only 1 point in it down in Dunedin at the beginning of the season and we had just conceded 50 to the Bumbies. Very close this one in my eyes. </p>
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<p>Lads, any news on why Wheeler is out of the 23? He will be missed from a Landers point of view.</p>
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<p>Does his replacement franklin do well in the set piece?</p>
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<p>Reddish apparently returning to the bench could be a useful half time replacement.</p>
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<p>Wheeler's discipline was pretty disappointing lately. I suppose this is why he isn't considered for this big occasion. Moreover, it gives Reddish the opportunity to play against his former mates, back on his own turf.</p> -
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<p>So your saying the Highlanders are going to win by 14 or more. That's a bit insane wouldn't you think. Canes at home at nearly full strength bar Broadhurst and Skudder are not going to go down without a fight. They have a fair chance of winning this game. You only have to go back to Napier last year where the Canes put 56 points on the Highlanders pretty comfortably. If they get it right it could be 14 or more the other way.</p>
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<p>Currently overseas and havent seen every game I must admit but the form the Highlanders are in I honestly cant see the Canes getting close. I wouldnt put my money on the Canes taking this but the way the Highlanders dismantled the Chiefs and Crusaders they should make easy pickings of the Canes.</p>
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<p>I think the Crusaders/Highlanders/Chiefs/Canes are all very evenly matched teams. You can say "if the Highlanders play like they did against the Chiefs/Crusaders then they will dismantle the Canes". But what if the Canes play like they did against the Lions? And what if the Highlanders play like they did against the Reds?</p>
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<p>Games between these teams come down to who puts it together on the night, can go either way IMO. Landers should be slight favourites but I wouldn't put my house on either result.</p>
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<p>Currently overseas and havent seen every game I must admit but the form the Highlanders are in I honestly cant see the Canes getting close. I wouldnt put my money on the Canes taking this but the way the Highlanders dismantled the Chiefs and Crusaders they should make easy pickings of the Canes.</p>
<p><strong>If they were playing in dunedin I would expect a 20 point margin</strong></p>
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<p>As opposed to the 1 point margin when they <em>did </em>play in Dunedin?</p>
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<p>Should be a cracking game - all of the NZ derbies this year have produced some fantastic rugby.</p> -
<p>For me, the Highlanders are the smarter and better coached team, so they're the ones who'd come out on top when the pressure is on and things matter, like in a final. But for a regular season game, anything can happen, especially with the June tests coming up and the squad naming on Sunday.</p>
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<p>The last 2 games before the bye the Highlanders were in top form and I expect them to carry that on. Since the lions game the Canes have not been playing that well (from game reports I have read)</p>
<p>Will definitly be finding a bar to watch this game on Friday afternoon should be a great game and if anyone is in Shenzhen tommorow wants to meet for the game I will buy the beers if the canes get within 14</p> -
<p>This is a big issue with Boyd. Barrett is kicking poorly (goal and line) yet Boyd hasn't given it a thought</p>
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<a data-ipb='nomediaparse' href='http://i.stuff.co.nz/sport/rugby/super-rugby/80424406/Nothing-between-Hurricanes-and-Highlanders-in-Friday-blockbuster'>http://i.stuff.co.nz/sport/rugby/super-rugby/80424406/Nothing-between-Hurricanes-and-Highlanders-in-Friday-blockbuster</a></p>
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<p>Along with the goalkicking battle between Beauden Barrett of the Hurricanes and the Highlanders' Lima Sopoaga. Barrett has kicked 1/6 and 2/5 in his last two appearances at Westpac Stadium, but Boyd's not perturbed.</p>
<p><span style="color:#ff0000;">"I haven't given it a thought and we haven't got a back-up plan. </span>I know he's worked really hard, it's a part of his game he wants to improve and he's done some extra work on it," said Boyd.</p>
<p>"I've got a lot of faith in him. He's a natural goalkicker and I think he's certainly going to start the kicking for us. The decision that happened a few weeks ago [in the 28-27 loss to the Chiefs] when Woody [Jason Woodward] took over from him was a decision that they made on the field, so I would be surprised if I had to force my hand on this and say that 'you're not going to kick anymore'."</p>
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<blockquote class="ipsBlockquote" data-author="crusadersfan" data-cid="582943" data-time="1464235958"><p>The last 2 games before the bye the Highlanders were in top form and I expect them to carry that on. Since the lions game the Canes have not been playing that well (from game reports I have read)<br>
Will definitly be finding a bar to watch this game on Friday afternoon should be a great game and if anyone is in Shenzhen tommorow wants to meet for the game I will buy the beers if the canes get within 14</p></blockquote>
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You are probably reading Hamish Bidwells articles. He is the Wellington version of Rattue. If te Canes play like they did against the Lions they will be tough to beat. I expect the naughty five will come out with something to prove. -
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<p>You are probably reading Hamish Bidwells articles. He is the Wellington version of Rattue. <strong>If te Canes play like they did against the Lions they will be tough to beat</strong>. I expect the naughty five will come out with something to prove.</p>
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<p>The big question with the canes is the "if"</p>
<p>You never know which one your going to get with them.</p>
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<p>I will back the side with consistant form anytime hence I dont back the Canes very often</p> -
<blockquote class="ipsBlockquote" data-author="crusadersfan" data-cid="582995" data-time="1464246837"><p>The big question with the canes is the "if"<br>
You never know which one your going to get with them.<br><br>
I will back the side with consistant form anytime hence I dont back the Canes very often</p></blockquote>
I hope you weren't betting against them last year or you'd be flat out broke right now :)<br><br>
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<p>I am talking since the super comp started, the Canes have been consistant only in being inconsistant.</p>
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Oh, right, you must have missed last year then.<br><br>
The only team in the history of Super rugby that has put 5+ years of consistent performance together is the Crusaders.