Black Caps vs England Series
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@Crazy-Horse said in Black Caps vs England Series:
The sentimental farewell tour - something NZ sports teams are priding themselves on lately.
Yeah, the pride is supposed to go before a fall, we are just incorporating it.
Losing when you aren't putting your best players in the team is unbelievably stupid in a business that's sole purpose is to win (or at the very least inspire performance). I can't see watching "has beens" lose being inspirational for the guys waiting either.
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Wellington on a slightly above average day today. Bit cloudy, not a lot of wind. That ripped through yesterday. Win the toss and bowl.
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@Snowy said in Black Caps vs England Series:
I really hope that the above is somehow a reverse jinx, but it seems soooooo unlikely.
Timmy's bowling seems beyond even my powers of reverse jinx. Sadly finishing up a passenger for two last Tests.
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@Chris-B said in Black Caps vs England Series:
@Snowy The most annoying thing is that they'll open the bowling with Tim - when he should be the fourth seamer.
@Chris had the only plausible reason for this that I have heard - Tim is shit with the new ball, but he will be much shitter with an older one.
He may have been a touch more eloquent than that about it.
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Timmy's last 11 test matches (21 innings). 17 wicket at 52.
It's probably hard to find an equivalent run ever in NZ history. I wonder what the worst run of 11 tests is for an NZ bowler without getting dropped.
Is basically slightly worse than the equivalent of career Chris Pringle average-wise, but at half the wicket taking ability.
I looked at the last 21 bowling innings of Kyle Mills as an example. Compared to Tim's 17 wickets at 52. Kyle was drop-worthy with 27 wicket at 34. (Ironically, Kye was dropped to make way for some young tyro definitely not called Tom Southerley that the slectors though was worth a cnother crack)
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@KiwiMurph said in Black Caps vs England Series:
Did anyone really expect this regime to drop Southee in his final series?
No, but it doesn't stop us wanting it to happen (or whining that it isn't).
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@Rapido said in Black Caps vs England Series:
It's probably hard to find an equivalent run ever in NZ history.
"He had one of the worst home summers by any Kiwi seam bowler in the country’s 94-year history of hosting tests, using the common metrics of average (runs per wicket) and strike rate (balls per wicket).
Cricinfo’s Statsguru makes it easy to find a list of New Zealand seamers who have bowled at least 60 overs across at least four innings during any given season.
That gives you a group of 177 bowler-seasons, from Ted Badcock in 1929 through to Southee, Henry and Will O’Rourke in 2023-24.
Southee’s average of 71.33 this summer was the third-worst mark and his strike rate of 127.1 was the sixth-worst mark."
That is from prior to latest test.
https://www.stuff.co.nz/sport/350209891/breaking-down-black-caps-captain-tim-southees-summer -
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@Snowy said in Black Caps vs England Series:
@Chris-B said in Black Caps vs England Series:
@Snowy The most annoying thing is that they'll open the bowling with Tim - when he should be the fourth seamer.
@Chris had the only plausible reason for this that I have heard - Tim is shit with the new ball, but he will be much shitter with an older one.
Probably correct - it's madness, though.
Compromise our chances of early wickets to nurse an old guy.
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@Chris-B said in Black Caps vs England Series:
@Snowy said in Black Caps vs England Series:
@Chris-B said in Black Caps vs England Series:
@Snowy The most annoying thing is that they'll open the bowling with Tim - when he should be the fourth seamer.
@Chris had the only plausible reason for this that I have heard - Tim is shit with the new ball, but he will be much shitter with an older one.
Probably correct - it's madness, though.
Compromise our chances of early wickets to nurse an old guy.
ReverseJinxO'Clock - he's going to go 0/120 off his overs - sucks, can't buy a wicket. We're no chance.
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@Chris-B said in Black Caps vs England Series:
@Bovidae said in Black Caps vs England Series:
We are bowling.
Will we be catching?
Latham needs to.
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