All Blacks EOYT
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@cgrant said in All Blacks EOYT:
@Mr-Fish
I guess Brodie McAllister will be selected ahead of Eklund.
Is Fabian Holland eligible for the All Blacks XV ?I think McAlister is a better player, to be fair, provided he's injury free.
It's up to NZR whether Holland is eligible or not. There are no wider rules from WR preventing his selection because the XV isn't a designated capture team.
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@Mr-Fish said in All Blacks EOYT:
@MiketheSnow said in All Blacks EOYT:
Hotham over Christie
I think the one issue is that Roigard has played no minutes so far, so you could be going into a game against Ireland with either an unproven newbie (Hotham) or a barely fit, relative newbie (Roigard) as your back-up halfback.
Neither situation is ideal. But if Roigard is able to get three or four games under his belt before the tour (which would depend on Counties getting a couple of games deep into the NPC knock-outs) and is in similar form to the beginning of the year then bringing Hotham in for Christie would make sense.
Roigard has to start in Japan and ideally Hotham get some time too. Ironically, 9 is an area which is looking good, but we need to give the tyros experience quickly. If experience colours Robertson's selections, TJP over Christie...
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@Victor-Meldrew said in All Blacks EOYT:
@Mr-Fish said in All Blacks EOYT:
@MiketheSnow said in All Blacks EOYT:
Hotham over Christie
I think the one issue is that Roigard has played no minutes so far, so you could be going into a game against Ireland with either an unproven newbie (Hotham) or a barely fit, relative newbie (Roigard) as your back-up halfback.
Neither situation is ideal. But if Roigard is able to get three or four games under his belt before the tour (which would depend on Counties getting a couple of games deep into the NPC knock-outs) and is in similar form to the beginning of the year then bringing Hotham in for Christie would make sense.
Roigard has to start in Japan and ideally Hotham get some time too. Ironically, 9 is an area which is looking good, but we need to give the tyros experience quickly. If experience colours Robertson's selections, TJP over Christie...
So Ratima might not play any top level rugby between now and starting against England?
There's a chance he gets a game for Waikato in the NPC finals but no guarantees.
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@Mr-Fish said in All Blacks EOYT:
@Victor-Meldrew said in All Blacks EOYT:
@Mr-Fish said in All Blacks EOYT:
@MiketheSnow said in All Blacks EOYT:
Hotham over Christie
I think the one issue is that Roigard has played no minutes so far, so you could be going into a game against Ireland with either an unproven newbie (Hotham) or a barely fit, relative newbie (Roigard) as your back-up halfback.
Neither situation is ideal. But if Roigard is able to get three or four games under his belt before the tour (which would depend on Counties getting a couple of games deep into the NPC knock-outs) and is in similar form to the beginning of the year then bringing Hotham in for Christie would make sense.
Roigard has to start in Japan and ideally Hotham get some time too. Ironically, 9 is an area which is looking good, but we need to give the tyros experience quickly. If experience colours Robertson's selections, TJP over Christie...
So Ratima might not play any top level rugby between now and starting against England?
There's a chance he gets a game for Waikato in the NPC finals but no guarantees.
Aye, it's a real balancing act but Ratima has had more Test minutes recently. Or maybe use him as 1st choice and ease Roigard in from the bench?
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Darry deserves a start against Japan . He was playing as well as Vaai
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If Proctor doesn't start against Japan I'll eat my hat
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@BerniesCorner said in All Blacks EOYT:
If Proctor doesn't start against Japan I'll eat my hat
If he does I reckon not to be seen again until something like Tonga next year.
But get some hat seasoning.
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@BorderJB said in All Blacks EOYT:
Questions:
Did BB play well??? he had a large influence on the game and seemed in the pocket more with Jordan at FB, we didn't start as well but finished better with Dmac coming on. Could we develop that on the tour?I like the sound of developing a fullback at fullback.
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@Jet said in All Blacks EOYT:
@DaGrubster said in All Blacks EOYT:
@Jet said in All Blacks EOYT:
Squad needs freshening up.
Id be looking at Lakai, Sotutu, Hotham, an outside back, and maybe another bolter or two.
Agreed, get rid of Cane, TJP, rest Savea
Lakai for Cane, Sotutu for one of Jacobsen, Finau, Paps or Blackadder. Hotham for TJ, with Roigard getting 3rd spot.
Then maybe a Narawa or Kneepkens or Zarn for a bit of zest.
Is Hotham not already in?
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What isn't Paps getting more game time
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@Mr-Fish Fihaki in the mix somewhere
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Do we know what size the eoyt squad will be? I’m guessing a little more than rugby championship squad
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@pakman said in All Blacks EOYT:
@Jet said in All Blacks EOYT:
@DaGrubster said in All Blacks EOYT:
@Jet said in All Blacks EOYT:
Squad needs freshening up.
Id be looking at Lakai, Sotutu, Hotham, an outside back, and maybe another bolter or two.
Agreed, get rid of Cane, TJP, rest Savea
Lakai for Cane, Sotutu for one of Jacobsen, Finau, Paps or Blackadder. Hotham for TJ, with Roigard getting 3rd spot.
Then maybe a Narawa or Kneepkens or Zarn for a bit of zest.
Is Hotham not already in?
As in retains his place instead of TJP with a view to being used. With Roigard easing back into test rugby against Italy.
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@Jet said in All Blacks EOYT:
@pakman said in All Blacks EOYT:
@Jet said in All Blacks EOYT:
@DaGrubster said in All Blacks EOYT:
@Jet said in All Blacks EOYT:
Squad needs freshening up.
Id be looking at Lakai, Sotutu, Hotham, an outside back, and maybe another bolter or two.
Agreed, get rid of Cane, TJP, rest Savea
Lakai for Cane, Sotutu for one of Jacobsen, Finau, Paps or Blackadder. Hotham for TJ, with Roigard getting 3rd spot.
Then maybe a Narawa or Kneepkens or Zarn for a bit of zest.
Is Hotham not already in?
As in retains his place instead of TJP with a view to being used. With Roigard easing back into test rugby against Italy.
The performances of Ratima and Hotham give us the luxury of not rushing Cam back. If they take TJP at Hotham's expense I could see that though
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@BorderJB said in All Blacks EOYT:
Questions:
Did BB play well??? he had a large influence on the game and seemed in the pocket more with Jordan at FB, we didn't start as well but finished better with Dmac coming on. Could we develop that on the tour?I don't think he played particularly well.
We can't sacrifice our good starts for good finishes. If McKenzie is our best 10 (which I think he pretty clearly is) then he should be starting. If Barrett's not good enough to come on make an impact (at 10 or 15) then we need to find someone who is.
