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    #170

    @kpkanz said in All Blacks EOYT:

    @sparky said in All Blacks EOYT:

    @kpkanz said in All Blacks EOYT:

    @sparky said in All Blacks EOYT:

    @kpkanz Those are terrible tackle stats for DMac.

    Dmacs tackling stats aren't actually terrible at all relative to other NZ super rugby first fives this season. He's actually bang on average or slightly above the average rate. The Blues 10s were both the top in the country.

    Plummer's attacking stats would be fine for a European 10, but DMac's defence stats (and I take your point a host of others in SuperSnore) would be off the scale awful in a major Euroepan competition.

    But that's just not true. We have the stats for the European 10s from the last season as well from that same source.

    Ireland
    Jack Crowley - 89%
    Ciaran Frawley - 79%
    Harry Byrne - 73%

    France
    Romain Ntamack - 88%
    Matthieu Jallibert - 66%

    England
    George Ford - 85%
    Marcus Smith - 74%

    Scotland
    Finn Russell - 71%

    It's not like Dmac would stick out here in any way compared to some of the numbers present.

    They are more than 10% worse than the top 10 for three of the four nations you mention. And I really hope the All Blacks aren't going to lose to Scotland any time soon.

    You want to be entertained. I don't want my side to lose. These days the NZR thinks like you.

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    #171

    @sparky said in All Blacks EOYT:

    @kpkanz said in All Blacks EOYT:

    @sparky said in All Blacks EOYT:

    @kpkanz said in All Blacks EOYT:

    @sparky said in All Blacks EOYT:

    @kpkanz Those are terrible tackle stats for DMac.

    Dmacs tackling stats aren't actually terrible at all relative to other NZ super rugby first fives this season. He's actually bang on average or slightly above the average rate. The Blues 10s were both the top in the country.

    Plummer's attacking stats would be fine for a European 10, but DMac's defence stats (and I take your point a host of others in SuperSnore) would be off the scale awful in a major Euroepan competition.

    But that's just not true. We have the stats for the European 10s from the last season as well from that same source.

    Ireland
    Jack Crowley - 89%
    Ciaran Frawley - 79%
    Harry Byrne - 73%

    France
    Romain Ntamack - 88%
    Matthieu Jallibert - 66%

    England
    George Ford - 85%
    Marcus Smith - 74%

    Scotland
    Finn Russell - 71%

    It's not like Dmac would stick out here in any way compared to some of the numbers present.

    They are more than 10% worse than the top 10 for three of the four nations you mention. And I really hope the All Blacks aren't going to lose to Scotland any time soon.

    You want to be entertained. I don't want my side to lose. These days the NZR thinks like you.

    It sounds like you're shifting the goal posts now. You claimed Dmacs tackling percentage is unheard of in 'major European competitions', yet every player I named there is leading MAJOR European clubs/countries in Europe today in the Champions cup and their respective leagues. These players are all in starting Six Nations 23 man squads.

    You cant just cherry pick the top tacklers here while ignoring half the list that has a worse tackling percentage and claim it proves Dmacs inadequacy vs northern teams.

    And if you are saying you'd drop Dmac for his tackling percentage (which is 75 to Plummers 83) and in turn take all of Plummers negatives (worse kicker, more turnovers/mistakes, inferior by a massive margin on attack) then we just fundamentally disagree.

    I'm not taking a vastly inferior player in nearly every metric because his tackling percentage is 7% higher.

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    #172

    @kpkanz Defence is at least 50% of the game so yeah we disagree.

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    #173

    @kpkanz pretty quiet on that points scored stat?

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    @nostrildamus said in All Blacks EOYT:

    Speaking of double dutch how big is his younger brother Quentin who apparently is a well built lock/6 himself?

    Much shorter (relatively speaking).

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    @DaGrubster said in All Blacks EOYT:

    @pakman said in All Blacks EOYT:

    @Billy-Tell said in All Blacks EOYT:

    @Frank said in All Blacks EOYT:

    @Billy-Tell said in All Blacks EOYT:

    @nostrildamus said in All Blacks EOYT:

    Can't wait for Holland to get into the ABs so I can make some Dutch Oven references.

    If razor doesn’t select him it’ll be a clear cut case of tall poppy syndrome.

    Word is he will be in AB XV

    Yeah I suppose promoting him straight to the ABs would require Dutch courage.

    He’ll be fabian in the XV.

    If razor needs to borrow him for the ABs will he tell Clayton to pass the dutchie?

    Only if he packs down on the left hand side

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    @Bones said in All Blacks EOYT:

    @Bovidae shit hot!

    👍 x 100

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    SouthernMann
    replied to Bovidae on last edited by
    #177

    @Bovidae said in All Blacks EOYT:

    @nostrildamus said in All Blacks EOYT:

    Speaking of double dutch how big is his younger brother Quentin who apparently is a well built lock/6 himself?

    Much shorter (relatively speaking).

    A similar size to Oil Haig/Will Stodart. More primarily a six than a lock.

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    brodean
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    #178

    Linebreak assist is a good one for playmakers.

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    #179

    I'm expecting Plummer to be in the AB XV before looking at any stats.

    I think Plummers kicking stats improved a lot near the business end ofnthe season.

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    #180

    @MN5 just went to school to eat his lunch and play rugby is what I’ve heard. Not the sharpest tool in the shed. Needs time. Amazing athlete

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    brodean
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    #181

    Dmac completed more tackles per 80 minutes than any other NZ 10 to play more than 5 games.

    Completed per 80 minutes
    6.57 Mckenzie
    5.26 Ioane
    4.85 Plummer

    Mckenize, Plummer, and Perofeta are the top 3 for total.

    Total completed tackles:
    83 Mckenzie
    71 Plummer
    33 Perofeta

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    Mr Fish
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    #182

    Hmmm.

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    #183

    I'd be surprised if Sotutu is in the mix for either squad.

    Suafoa and Lio Willie were preferred last year in NZ XV

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    stodders
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    #184

    If Sotutu plays for England rather than fighting for his place back, maybe the coaches were right.

    Jeez, imagine if Kaino had decided to go and have a sulk rather than work hard at developing his game following rejection. Not once, but twice.

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    #185

    @stodders

    Nah that's BS.

    He'll never get selected again. There is an obvious feud happening between him and Ryan.

    Sotutus defence has never been as bad as Canes has in the last few games. The double standards are obvious.

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    replied to Mr Fish on last edited by brodean
    #186

    @Mr-Fish

    Is that even real?

    I don't see that on instagram.

    Seems fake.

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    replied to brodean on last edited by gt12
    #187

    @brodean said in All Blacks EOYT:

    @Mr-Fish

    Is that even real?

    I don't see that on instagram.

    Seems fake.

    I saw it on Akira’s insta

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    Machpants
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    #188

    Even if he is not going to England, good on Ioane keeping the shit stirring going, much more interesting. Or it is a great fake news

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    wrote on last edited by gt12
    #189

    Fucking hell, Akira throwing bombs with that one.

    I assume its an inside joke (i.e., playing for England wasn't meant to be) as there will and should be a riot if Sotutu isn’t picked.

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