TJ Perenara - is this the end?
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TJ Perenara plays his final test in New Zealand and potentially his final test in Black on Saturday, fittingly at his home ground and alongside his old partner in crime Beaudy Barrett.
He's had a pretty interesting career but he's never been short of hard work, determination, the occasional spectacular play, and well we all know he's a yappy f'cker. At his peak he provided a perfect one-two punch with Aaron Smith and even though his form has fluctuated over the last three or four years, he's been a pretty solid All Black.
Is this the end? I guess we won't find out until the EOYT squad is named.
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I would think him and Cane will go on EOYT. I think they are pretty handy to have around for the young fellas. Mind you I also would very much like to see Lakai there, and if Roigard is fit and firing they may figure that him and Ratima have had a few tests and so good to go? Roigard would need a couple of games for Counties, so if he not playing this week, I see TJ going.
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That sideline try was unbelievable
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@BerniesCorner said in TJ Perenara - is this the end?:
That sideline try was unbelievable
His pass when he was falling was one of the best he’s delivered and the final pass to him was sublime
He’s been a pain in the arse to play against and if he’d been born elsewhere would have been lauded as one of that country’s best
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@MiketheSnow said in TJ Perenara - is this the end?:
@BerniesCorner said in TJ Perenara - is this the end?:
That sideline try was unbelievable
His pass when he was falling was one of the best he’s delivered and the final pass to him was sublime
He’s been a pain in the arse to play against and if he’d been born elsewhere would have been lauded as one of that country’s best
Yeah very unlucky that he played at the same time as Aaron Smith really.
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Sorry to be all Nelly negative, but I don't think he ever really reached his potential. When he first cam eon the scene, I remember a few of us (not on here) were of the opinion that Smith was keeping the jersey warm for him.
Yet, whilst Smith just got more and more solid, Perenara seemed to go the other way. Phenomenal rugby player with some moments of unbelievable brilliance which Smith could never do, but too many "other moments" for me. Almost a bit Byron ish, in that he couldn't calm himself down enough for the big moments when all that was needed was him to do his job to perfection to let other talents in the team expose opportunities. Which is odd as I think he's a natural leader, with the mana required to take on the big jobs.
Summary is that his ceiling was probably higher than Smith, but his average was a distant second.
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My tuppence...
When we had the three unbelievably incredible options of Smith, Kerr-Barlow and Perenara we all though Perenara was the best bits of the other two.
Had a great pass and was hugely physical, could run, could tackle.
Unfortunately that didn't kinda work out.
He kinda got over excitable, and really didn't become his best self.
Am still super pleased with his efforts, but in the end didn't live up to his potential, when we thought he maybe would be the best of the three.
Thanks TJ. Go well in your next phase.
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If Razor is to make his mark on this team, he will need to cull several of the old guard for the upcoming EOYT, TJ and Cane being the 1st 2, plus a few others that must surely be looking at the exit, but Razor needs to regain his ruthlessness and show he's the head coach.
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Yep and Sititi starting at 8. Proctor trial at center, Lakai trial at 7 and fast wingers...
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We'd have been pretty fucked this year if he had gone completely for the moolah and deserves thanks for that. Great team man and leader of the haka but I'd really like to see another 9 on the EOYT. I don't think he can add value to the younger players like Cane could.
If this is his last game, he deserves a bloody good send-off.
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@Victor-Meldrew said in TJ Perenara - is this the end?:
I don't think he can add value to the younger players like Cane could.
Why not? His work ethic, dedication and guts are on a par at least.
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@Bones said in TJ Perenara - is this the end?:
@Victor-Meldrew said in TJ Perenara - is this the end?:
I don't think he can add value to the younger players like Cane could.
Why not? His work ethic, dedication and guts are on a par at least.
Yeah, agreed, but we're looking pretty good at 9 with Ratima and the likely return of The World's Greatest Halfback Ever for the EOYT. The 7 jersey is looking much thinner
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@taniwharugby said in TJ Perenara - is this the end?:
If Razor is to make his mark on this team, he will need to cull several of the old guard for the upcoming EOYT, TJ and Cane being the 1st 2, plus a few others that must surely be looking at the exit, but Razor needs to regain his ruthlessness and show he's the head coach.
EOYTs should not be farewell tours. Unless you are a HC that wants to get yourself or your assistants fired
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@Bones said in TJ Perenara - is this the end?:
@Victor-Meldrew said in TJ Perenara - is this the end?:
I don't think he can add value to the younger players like Cane could.
Why not? His work ethic, dedication and guts are on a par at least.
Yeah seconded. I always find it weird when guys who, you know, aren’t actually All Blacks or part of the All Black set up make statements like this. How the hell would any of us really know ?
It’s like me making claims about TJ cos I happen to see him at Whitby New World quite a bit
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@Victor-Meldrew said in TJ Perenara - is this the end?:
@Bones said in TJ Perenara - is this the end?:
@Victor-Meldrew said in TJ Perenara - is this the end?:
I don't think he can add value to the younger players like Cane could.
Why not? His work ethic, dedication and guts are on a par at least.
Yeah, agreed, but we're looking pretty good at 9 with Ratima and the likely return of The World's Greatest Halfback Ever for the EOYT.
He's staying in France.
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@MN5 said in TJ Perenara - is this the end?:
.It’s like me making claims about TJ cos I happen to see him at Whitby New World quite a bit...
Arguing with the cashiers?
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@nostrildamus said in TJ Perenara - is this the end?:
@MN5 said in TJ Perenara - is this the end?:
.It’s like me making claims about TJ cos I happen to see him at Whitby New World quite a bit...
Arguing with the cashiers?
Waving his arms in an exasperated fashion at the self serve machines last I saw
