Should Ardie play 7?
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@nzzp said in Should Ardie play 7:
@MN5 said in Should Ardie play 7:
Forget 7, Ardie should play 12.
stuff that, Tosi to 8
Edit: he'll be like Hayman!
Tamati Williams was a loose forward too..
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@Canes4life said in Should Ardie play 7:
@reprobate said in Should Ardie play 7:
Jacobson, Blackadder, Dalton - even Cane
Lol those four you've mentioned above aren't exactly great examples of players that get us go forward though, are they?
If Kwagga Smith, Michael Hooper, Siya Kolisi et al can be effective at international level, there is no issue with Lakai and Sititi as a combo, aslong as they are balanced out with a big 6 that can dominate (so not Finau). The ABs need more than just a 'good tackler' at 7, someone that can actually be effective on both sides of the ball.
But you were proposing it as an improvement on all the 7.5s, and in terms of size (or at least height) it isn't.
Kolisi/Kwagga play with Wiese and du Toit - both big men.
McCaw played with Read and Collins - both big men.
I hope Lakai and Sititi both go great, but neither is that big - so picking both risks just being a more dynamic set of 7.5s to me. -
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In answer to the OP's question: Yes, from the bench.
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@nzzp said in Should Ardie play 7?:
@MN5 said in Should Ardie play 7:
Forget 7, Ardie should play 12.
stuff that, Tosi to 8
Edit: he'll be like Hayman!
you do know he was converted from the backrow to play prop
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@Bovidae said in Should Ardie play 7?:
I've no doubt that Lakai will be on the EOYT. It could possibly be the last test for both Cane and TJP in Wellington. Cane brings up his 100th test and TJP plays his last test at home.
Ardie doesn't go to many attacking rucks so you need a 7 and 6 who clean to retain possession. That allows Savea to carry, which is his strength in this team.
Worked well last year. They seem to have gone away from it this year.
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@antipodean said in Should Ardie play 7?:
In answer to the OP's question: Yes, from the bench.
correct answer
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@Bovidae said in Should Ardie play 7?:
I've no doubt that Lakai will be on the EOYT. It could possibly be the last test for both Cane and TJP in Wellington. Cane brings up his 100th test and TJP plays his last test at home.
Ardie doesn't go to many attacking rucks so you need a 7 and 6 who clean to retain possession. That allows Savea to carry, which is his strength in this team.
If it emerges that cane is playing so he can get a ton and TJ so he can finish at home, razor should fucking resign. However I doubt that's the case, see Crockett
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@Machpants said in Should Ardie play 7?:
@Bovidae said in Should Ardie play 7?:
I've no doubt that Lakai will be on the EOYT. It could possibly be the last test for both Cane and TJP in Wellington. Cane brings up his 100th test and TJP plays his last test at home.
Ardie doesn't go to many attacking rucks so you need a 7 and 6 who clean to retain possession. That allows Savea to carry, which is his strength in this team.
If it emerges that cane is playing so he can get a ton and TJ so he can finish at home, razor should fucking resign. However I doubt that's the case, see Crockett
What happened there again ?
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@MN5 said in Should Ardie play 7?:
@Machpants said in Should Ardie play 7?:
@Bovidae said in Should Ardie play 7?:
I've no doubt that Lakai will be on the EOYT. It could possibly be the last test for both Cane and TJP in Wellington. Cane brings up his 100th test and TJP plays his last test at home.
Ardie doesn't go to many attacking rucks so you need a 7 and 6 who clean to retain possession. That allows Savea to carry, which is his strength in this team.
If it emerges that cane is playing so he can get a ton and TJ so he can finish at home, razor should fucking resign. However I doubt that's the case, see Crockett
What happened there again ?
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Yes Ardie should play off the bench. I guess Sotutu can't play his way back via these coaches?
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@nostrildamus said in Should Ardie play 7?:
Yes Ardie should play off the bench. I guess Sotutu can't play his way back via these coaches?
He would if he worked harder on both sides of the ball. It’s all his own fault.
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@MN5 said in Should Ardie play 7?:
@nostrildamus said in Should Ardie play 7?:
Yes Ardie should play off the bench. I guess Sotutu can't play his way back via these coaches?
He would if he worked harder on both sides of the ball. It’s all his own fault.
Too much upside, not enough downside.
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@MN5 said in Should Ardie play 7?:
@nostrildamus said in Should Ardie play 7?:
Yes Ardie should play off the bench. I guess Sotutu can't play his way back via these coaches?
He would if he worked harder on both sides of the ball. It’s all his own fault.
His big problem was actually playing Super. Should have skipped it entirely.....
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@KiwiMurph said in Should Ardie play 7?:
@MN5 said in Should Ardie play 7?:
@nostrildamus said in Should Ardie play 7?:
Yes Ardie should play off the bench. I guess Sotutu can't play his way back via these coaches?
He would if he worked harder on both sides of the ball. It’s all his own fault.
His big problem was actually playing Super. Should have skipped it entirely.....
I'm glad he's playing Semi Professinal rugby for Counties though currently. Really beneficial having him play down there......
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@Canes4life said in Should Ardie play 7?:
@nostrildamus said in All Blacks vs Wallabies I:
@booboo said in All Blacks vs Wallabies I:
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Do we think Sam Cane gets his 99th on Saturday, 100th the following week and then misses EOYT?
Reckon they'll stick with him and look for new 7 the next couple of years. Dunno who though.
Lakai?
Absolutely, he'll pass everyone by the next World Cup IMO (including Ardie). Lakai will be on the EOYT, there's no better 7 in the NPC atm.
I really wouldn't be surprised if our 7 and 8 at the next WC was Lakai and Sititi.
Or 6 and 7 anyway mate, I would be comfortable either way.
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Ardie would be best suited to a bench role going forward. We desperately need a traditional 6,7 and 8.
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