All Blacks vs Wallabies I
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@Nepia said in All Blacks vs Wallabies I:
@Gunner said in All Blacks vs Wallabies I:
This talk of sacking Razor is madness.
Yep we’ve lost too many games for anyones liking, however i can see clear improvement in tactics and the way we’re playing.
He’s slowly but surely bringing in fresh talent, though I’d like him to be a bit more ruthless with some of the underperforming senior players.
Boks are a good side, with the majority having been together for years, know how to win (much like our 2011-2015 ABs teams.
It’s not all doom and gloom, if we’re still making the same mistakes and losing close games in another 12 months then it’ll need a re-think.
Well it's clearly in the context of the last few years where there were constant calls to sack Fozzie even after he managed to not lose a RC at all.
The posters who were ready to string him up can't complain now when the same standards are being applied to the Messiah.
I'm not sure I'm seeing this "clear" improvement you can see.
(This is not me saying he should be sacked, just pointing out that in the context of the Fern over the last few years it's not as "madness" as you may think).
Foster had greater players and worse tactics against weaker teams.
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@sparky said in All Blacks vs Wallabies I:
@Gunner said in All Blacks vs Wallabies I:
This talk of sacking Razor is madness.
Hard disagree . He needs to be held to account the same as any other international coach. If Surf Jesus can't lead the ABs to win this game, he should be gone.
Based on the Wallaby performance last night I don't think that's unreasonable
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@Bones said in All Blacks vs Wallabies I:
Fuck imagine if Schmidt did sneak one over razor though. I'd buy a desk just so I could flip it over.
There's some right good deals at IKEA
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@Victor-Meldrew said in All Blacks vs Wallabies I:
The gloss has well and truly come off and all the hype around Robertson has turned out to be, well, hype.
Do you remember the time we didn't have a front row, mid field and JB put on the wing.
Leading the world champs until the 65 min mark in both SA tests.
I'll take it.We are steadily finding keepers. Williams, Vaai, Sititi, Ratima We are building
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@BerniesCorner said in All Blacks vs Wallabies I:
@Victor-Meldrew said in All Blacks vs Wallabies I:
The gloss has well and truly come off and all the hype around Robertson has turned out to be, well, hype.
Do you remember the time we didn't have a front row, mid field and JB put on the wing.
Leading the world champs until the 65 min mark in both SA tests.
I'll take it.I remember the time not so long ago when we showed some rugby smarts to beat the world champs and the no.1 team in the world - and when we won the RC.
Now we think beating Argentina at home is progress and secretly wondering if the 8th-placed team in the world will put one over us.
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@Bones said in All Blacks vs Wallabies I:
Fuck imagine if Schmidt did sneak one over razor though. I'd buy a desk just so I could flip it over.
And the worrying thing is that is quite plausible
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@Victor-Meldrew said in All Blacks vs Wallabies I:
Now we think beating Argentina at home is progress and secretly wondering if the 8th-placed team in the world will put one over us.
I love how you tell us what we are thinking when you just made it up.
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@Victor-Meldrew said in All Blacks vs Wallabies I:
@Kirwan said in All Blacks vs Wallabies I:
We all agree that if we lose against this Wallabies side Razor should be sacked?
The gloss has well and truly come off and all the hype around Robertson has turned out to be, well, hype.
But I say stick with him as a new coach needs more time. Also (broken record alert) I think there are way deeper problems with NZ rugby affecting the ABs than just the coach. That said, we need a review of his tenure so far to see what's missing, if he needs support and also start asking questions on if he's really up to Test rugby or how much more time he needs.
As @Hooroo says, worst scenario is 2 thumping wins over the Wobbles which paper over the cracks.
Let’s hope it’s not 2 thumping losses then!?!
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@nostrildamus said in All Blacks vs Wallabies I:
I love how you tell us what we are thinking when you just made it up.
I was channelling @bones desk-flipping threats
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@DaGrubster said in All Blacks vs Wallabies I:
@Victor-Meldrew said in All Blacks vs Wallabies I:
@Kirwan said in All Blacks vs Wallabies I:
We all agree that if we lose against this Wallabies side Razor should be sacked?
The gloss has well and truly come off and all the hype around Robertson has turned out to be, well, hype.
But I say stick with him as a new coach needs more time. Also (broken record alert) I think there are way deeper problems with NZ rugby affecting the ABs than just the coach. That said, we need a review of his tenure so far to see what's missing, if he needs support and also start asking questions on if he's really up to Test rugby or how much more time he needs.
As @Hooroo says, worst scenario is 2 thumping wins over the Wobbles which paper over the cracks.
Let’s hope it’s not 2 thumping losses then!?!
Can't see it, but with Schmidt, there's a real chance he'll turn us over
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@MN5 said in All Blacks vs Wallabies I:
@Bones said in All Blacks vs Wallabies I:
@sparky said in All Blacks vs Wallabies I:
@Bones I'm blaming last night's Scotch.
The thing that really hurt was it's easier to type Sititi than Wallace.
Not true. It auto corrects to Sotutu if you’re not careful and the wrong guy might get selected
Ah so that explains his selection in the first place, Razor typed Sotutu on Tubby Ryan's laptop and it auto corrected to anyone but Sotutu.
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@canefan said in All Blacks vs Wallabies I:
@Frank said in All Blacks vs Wallabies I:
Plummer fast becoming the new (gets better the less he plays) favorite.
(though I agree he needs a shot)
He's the emerging new Ngatai
Surely that's Proctor, already a great test centre, played the same number of tests as his brother - one.
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@Victor-Meldrew said in All Blacks vs Wallabies I:
@DaGrubster said in All Blacks vs Wallabies I:
@Victor-Meldrew said in All Blacks vs Wallabies I:
@Kirwan said in All Blacks vs Wallabies I:
We all agree that if we lose against this Wallabies side Razor should be sacked?
The gloss has well and truly come off and all the hype around Robertson has turned out to be, well, hype.
But I say stick with him as a new coach needs more time. Also (broken record alert) I think there are way deeper problems with NZ rugby affecting the ABs than just the coach. That said, we need a review of his tenure so far to see what's missing, if he needs support and also start asking questions on if he's really up to Test rugby or how much more time he needs.
As @Hooroo says, worst scenario is 2 thumping wins over the Wobbles which paper over the cracks.
Let’s hope it’s not 2 thumping losses then!?!
Can't see it, but with Schmidt, there's a real chance he'll turn us over
Did you see them against the argies
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@Victor-Meldrew said in All Blacks vs Wallabies I:
@nostrildamus said in All Blacks vs Wallabies I:
I love how you tell us what we are thinking when you just made it up.
I was channelling @bones desk-flipping threats
oh ok my bad. I don't see those.
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@DaGrubster said in All Blacks vs Wallabies I:
@Victor-Meldrew said in All Blacks vs Wallabies I:
@DaGrubster said in All Blacks vs Wallabies I:
@Victor-Meldrew said in All Blacks vs Wallabies I:
@Kirwan said in All Blacks vs Wallabies I:
We all agree that if we lose against this Wallabies side Razor should be sacked?
The gloss has well and truly come off and all the hype around Robertson has turned out to be, well, hype.
But I say stick with him as a new coach needs more time. Also (broken record alert) I think there are way deeper problems with NZ rugby affecting the ABs than just the coach. That said, we need a review of his tenure so far to see what's missing, if he needs support and also start asking questions on if he's really up to Test rugby or how much more time he needs.
As @Hooroo says, worst scenario is 2 thumping wins over the Wobbles which paper over the cracks.
Let’s hope it’s not 2 thumping losses then!?!
Can't see it, but with Schmidt, there's a real chance he'll turn us over
Did you see them against the argies
Not yet. But I did see us against Argentina..... and I saw Schmidt's Ireland narrowly lose to the 2015 AB's after being hammered the previous week...
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@Victor-Meldrew said in All Blacks vs Wallabies I:
Not yet. But I did see us against Argentina..... and I saw Schmidt's Ireland narrowly lose to the 2015 AB's after being hammered the previous week...
If there is a hallmark of Wallaby rugby in recent years, it's our ability to play well one week and shit the next.
Well we bounce back from this weekend? In time for Bled 1?
Not with the gulf in quality and experience between squads.
I'd fucking love a win but these guys - like the last two decades - have inherited the scars of those before... Like genetic echoes of PTSD.
I'm seeing a lot of misery of there in Twitter land; more than usual. A few are reaching breaking point.
With a 2025 season to plan for our club, this won't help a bit
over and above all the other shit."Just keep working at it" I keep getting told, but it's fucking difficult not to just drop it all and go be Swans fan...
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@NTA said in All Blacks vs Wallabies I:
@Victor-Meldrew said in All Blacks vs Wallabies I:
Not yet. But I did see us against Argentina..... and I saw Schmidt's Ireland narrowly lose to the 2015 AB's after being hammered the previous week...
If there is a hallmark of Wallaby rugby in recent years, it's our ability to play well one week and shit the next.
Well we bounce back from this weekend? In time for Bled 1?
Not with the gulf in quality and experience between squads.
I'd fucking love a win but these guys - like the last two decades - have inherited the scars of those before... Like genetic echoes of PTSD.
I'm seeing a lot of misery of there in Twitter land; more than usual. A few are reaching breaking point.
With a 2025 season to plan for our club, this won't help a bit
over and above all the other shit."Just keep working at it" I keep getting told, but it's fucking difficult not to just drop it all and go be Swans fan...
There is a chance we drop off in intensity, it takes a lot to raise to the play the Boks, the question is will both teams be similarly hurt by their recent results?
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@NTA said in All Blacks vs Wallabies I:
@Victor-Meldrew said in All Blacks vs Wallabies I:
Not yet. But I did see us against Argentina..... and I saw Schmidt's Ireland narrowly lose to the 2015 AB's after being hammered the previous week...
If there is a hallmark of Wallaby rugby in recent years, it's our ability to play well one week and shit the next.
Well we bounce back from this weekend? In time for Bled 1?
Not with the gulf in quality and experience between squads.
I'd fucking love a win but these guys - like the last two decades - have inherited the scars of those before... Like genetic echoes of PTSD.
I'm seeing a lot of misery of there in Twitter land; more than usual. A few are reaching breaking point.
With a 2025 season to plan for our club, this won't help a bit
over and above all the other shit."Just keep working at it" I keep getting told, but it's fucking difficult not to just drop it all and go be Swans fan...
The decision to dump Rennie for Jones is clearly still being felt. Schmidt is a proven coach though and will likely get the best out of the team
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@BerniesCorner said in All Blacks vs Wallabies I:
@Victor-Meldrew said in All Blacks vs Wallabies I:
The gloss has well and truly come off and all the hype around Robertson has turned out to be, well, hype.
Do you remember the time we didn't have a front row, mid field and JB put on the wing.
Leading the world champs until the 65 min mark in both SA tests.
I'll take it.We are steadily finding keepers. Williams, Vaai, Sititi, Ratima We are building
Chiefs strong. Time to bring back the vikings.
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@antipodean said in All Blacks vs Wallabies I:
@Frank said in All Blacks vs Wallabies I:
My starting 15 for the Wallabies
15 Love (more solid option than Jordan)
14 Reiko
13 Proctor (time for a real centre)
12 Jordie or ALBThis shit is dimwitted beyond belief. The problem isn't the centre, it's the bloke inside him and his poor decision making.
DMac has displayed he's a rabbit in the spotlight. How many more times do we need this "learning"? Start Plummer.
Savea to the bench. Sititi to start at 8.
If we had Plummer the last 2 games we would have lost by 20 each game
