Springboks vs All Blacks 2
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@Chris said in Springboks vs All Blacks 2:
@sparky said in Springboks vs All Blacks 2:
@Chris I remember suggesting that the coaches try BB at 13 back in 2016, but it's far too late in his career to make the move to midfield.
yeah 8 years to late for that.
You would have thought the logical time would have been when the cartel were toying with the double pivot. Why not have dual playmakers at 10 and 12 (DC played at 12 a few times early in his career), rather than 10 and 15? Lots of teams have done it. Giteau at 12 springs to mind (Nonu loved that in 2015...)
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@canefan said in Springboks vs All Blacks 2:
@Chris said in Springboks vs All Blacks 2:
@sparky said in Springboks vs All Blacks 2:
@Chris I remember suggesting that the coaches try BB at 13 back in 2016, but it's far too late in his career to make the move to midfield.
yeah 8 years to late for that.
You would have thought the logical time would have been when the cartel were toying with the double pivot. Why not have dual playmakers are 10 and 12 (DC played at 12 a few times early in his career), rather than 10 and 15? Lots of teams have done it. Giteau at 12 springs to mind (Nonu loved that in 2015...)
you are probably right there if you wanted to try that out..
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@sparky said in Springboks vs All Blacks 2:
Sadly, we never got to see Carl Hayman at 8 or Richie McCaw try his hand at reserve Hooker after the 2015 World Cup which were two of the more "interesting" suggestions I've seen on the Fern.
I must have missed that suggestion
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Weather forecast for Saturday still looking good:
Pretty chilly, but no rain or excessive wind expected (yet).
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@Billy-Webb said in Springboks vs All Blacks 2:
Weather forecast for Saturday still looking good:
Pretty chilly, but no rain or excessive wind expected (yet).
Wow, that's cool!! The olds are on a tour following the team. Being from Wellie they will feel right at home!!
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@sparky said in Springboks vs All Blacks 2:
@MiketheSnow The All Blacks lost their last two games to SA by a combined total of five points or Wayne Barnes not seeing a dropped scrum bind and the TMO missing a Bongi knock on.
Wales lost their last two games to South Africa by a combined total of 64 points and I had to get out a calculator to do the Maths.
So why make a personal comparison in the first place?
You'd have been better placed to compare yourselves with Ireland and work out how you can turn a narrow deficit into a win a week later
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Ratima-Proctor-Love yeah, yeah, yeah
Kick it long in your own half yeah yeah yeah
Don't swear at the ref yeah yeah yeah
Dont kick it out on the full yeah yeah yeah
You know it can't be badrepeat
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Another thought
The current ABs are like the Norwegian athlete Jakob Ingebrigtsen
When they can control the pace, tempo and tactics they lead from the get go and build up a lead and momentum which more often than not leads to victory
When they can't do that and have to either defend a lead or come from behind they often lose
By kicking the ball away so badly they put themselves in scenario 2
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@MiketheSnow Not sure I agree with that. I think we generally lack control right now. As well as we played in that first 60, we still made errors in execution of our kicking game in particular that prevented us from getting out of sight. And the bench is our achilles heel, something that we prided as a strength before
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@MiketheSnow said in Springboks vs All Blacks 2:
Another thought
The current ABs are like the Norwegian athlete Jakob Ingebrigtsen
When they can control the pace, tempo and tactics they lead from the get go and build up a lead and momentum which more often than not leads to victory
When they can't do that and have to either defend a lead or come from behind they often lose
By kicking the ball away so badly they put themselves in scenario 2
Super interesting comp actually. Some merit in it. Not so much in the “have to lead and control” part, but more in the “dominant over longer periods, but can struggle to withstand the pressure of a couple of challengers peaking at the perfect moment”.
As an aside, that 1500m was pretty wild - with hindsight, you could have absolutely scripted that for Hocker. Sit in the pocket, watch Jakob move out to block Kerr, slip up the inside, and hope to win with a time that isn’t a Jakob/Kerr pb
Perfect race for him - he’s basically SA rugby…
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@Billy-Webb said in Springboks vs All Blacks 2:
Weather forecast for Saturday still looking good:
Pretty chilly, but no rain or excessive wind expected (yet).
I'm expecting excessive wind on here.
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@canefan said in Springboks vs All Blacks 2:
@Billy-Webb said in Springboks vs All Blacks 2:
Weather forecast for Saturday still looking good:
Pretty chilly, but no rain or excessive wind expected (yet).
Wow, that's cool!! The olds are on a tour following the team. Being from Wellie they will feel right at home!!
Hope they're having fun!
They chose an excellent week for Cape Town - it's unseasonably warm and dry this week.
Today is 29 degrees and while it gradually cools towards the weekend, it should still be sunshine. -
@Billy-Webb said in Springboks vs All Blacks 2:
@canefan said in Springboks vs All Blacks 2:
@Billy-Webb said in Springboks vs All Blacks 2:
Weather forecast for Saturday still looking good:
Pretty chilly, but no rain or excessive wind expected (yet).
Wow, that's cool!! The olds are on a tour following the team. Being from Wellie they will feel right at home!!
Hope they're having fun!
They chose an excellent week for Cape Town - it's unseasonably warm and dry this week.
Today is 29 degrees and while it gradually cools towards the weekend, it should still be sunshine.They've been on safari, I think they are at Victoria Falls. Off to Capetown later in the week. A trip of a lifetime
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@nostrildamus said in Springboks vs All Blacks 2:
@Billy-Webb said in Springboks vs All Blacks 2:
Weather forecast for Saturday still looking good:
Pretty chilly, but no rain or excessive wind expected (yet).
I'm expecting excessive wind on here.
That will depend on who loses ... and who they blame
EDIT: actually that simply determines WHO does all the blowing...
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@canefan said in Springboks vs All Blacks 2:
@Billy-Webb said in Springboks vs All Blacks 2:
@canefan said in Springboks vs All Blacks 2:
@Billy-Webb said in Springboks vs All Blacks 2:
Weather forecast for Saturday still looking good:
Pretty chilly, but no rain or excessive wind expected (yet).
Wow, that's cool!! The olds are on a tour following the team. Being from Wellie they will feel right at home!!
Hope they're having fun!
They chose an excellent week for Cape Town - it's unseasonably warm and dry this week.
Today is 29 degrees and while it gradually cools towards the weekend, it should still be sunshine.They've been on safari, I think they are at Victoria Falls. Off to Capetown later in the week. A trip of a lifetime
That's awesome.