Springboks vs All Blacks I

pakman

Salivating at the thought of Samipeni introducing himself to Sacha Feinberg-Mngomezulu.

Bovidae

I read an article yesterday from some Stuff scribes (Hinton, Goile, Cully) where they listed their team to play SA. They each choose a different centre.

nostrildamus

@Bovidae said in Springboks vs All Blacks I:

Hinton, Goile, Cull

The Post

this one? Quite a few different takes in that article.

ACT Crusader

Goile: Beauden Barrett, Will Jordan, Anton Lienert-Brown, Jordie Barrett, Caleb Clarke, Damian McKenzie, Cortez Ratima, Wallace Sititi, Ardie Savea, Ethan Blackadder, Tupou Vaa’i, Scott Barrett (c), Tyrel Lomax, Codie Taylor, Tamaiti Williams.
Reserves: Asafo Aumua, Ofa Tu’ungafasi, Fletcher Newell, Sam Darry, Sam Cane, TJ Perenara, Rieko Ioane, Mark Tele’a.

Cully: Beauden Barrett, Will Jordan, Billy Proctor, Jordie Barrett, Caleb Clarke, Damian McKenzie, Cortez Ratima, Wallace Sititi, Ardie Savea, Samipeni Finau, Tupou Vaa'i, Scott Barrett (c), Tyrel Lomax, Codie Taylor, Tamaiti Williams.
Reserves: Asafo Aumua, Ofa Tu’ungafasi, Fletcher Newell, Sam Darry, Ethan Blackadder, TJ Perenara, Harry Plummer, Rieko Ioane

Hinton: Will Jordan, Mark Tele’a, Rieko Ioane, Jordie Barrett, Caleb Clarke, Damian McKenzie, TJ Perenara, Ardie Savea, Sam Cane, Ethan Blackadder, Sam Darry, Scott Barrett (c), Tyrel Lomax, Codie Taylor, Tamaiti Williams.
Reserves: Asafo Aumua, Ofa Tu’ungafasi, Fletcher Newell, Tupou Vaa’i, Luke Jacobson, Cortez Ratima, Beauden Barrett, Anton Lienert-Brown.

Cully’s forward pack is extremely ambitious. Hinton’s backline seems unlikely.

What they agree on: 1-4, Ardie starting, 10-12, Will Jordan starting, 16-18,

pakman

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Bones

@ACT-Crusader they also agree DP should be dropped completely. Nah yeah nah.

Jet

@ACT-Crusader said in Springboks vs All Blacks I:

Goile: Beauden Barrett, Will Jordan, Anton Lienert-Brown, Jordie Barrett, Caleb Clarke, Damian McKenzie, Cortez Ratima, Wallace Sititi, Ardie Savea, Ethan Blackadder, Tupou Vaa’i, Scott Barrett (c), Tyrel Lomax, Codie Taylor, Tamaiti Williams.
Reserves: Asafo Aumua, Ofa Tu’ungafasi, Fletcher Newell, Sam Darry, Sam Cane, TJ Perenara, Rieko Ioane, Mark Tele’a.

Cully: Beauden Barrett, Will Jordan, Billy Proctor, Jordie Barrett, Caleb Clarke, Damian McKenzie, Cortez Ratima, Wallace Sititi, Ardie Savea, Samipeni Finau, Tupou Vaa'i, Scott Barrett (c), Tyrel Lomax, Codie Taylor, Tamaiti Williams.
Reserves: Asafo Aumua, Ofa Tu’ungafasi, Fletcher Newell, Sam Darry, Ethan Blackadder, TJ Perenara, Harry Plummer, Rieko Ioane

Hinton: Will Jordan, Mark Tele’a, Rieko Ioane, Jordie Barrett, Caleb Clarke, Damian McKenzie, TJ Perenara, Ardie Savea, Sam Cane, Ethan Blackadder, Sam Darry, Scott Barrett (c), Tyrel Lomax, Codie Taylor, Tamaiti Williams.
Reserves: Asafo Aumua, Ofa Tu’ungafasi, Fletcher Newell, Tupou Vaa’i, Luke Jacobson, Cortez Ratima, Beauden Barrett, Anton Lienert-Brown.

Cully’s forward pack is extremely ambitious. Hinton’s backline seems unlikely.

What they agree on: 1-4, Ardie starting, 10-12, Will Jordan starting, 16-18,

Regardless of who you agree with it is indicative of where the Allblacks are at the last few years.

No consensus backrow or centres for example.

pakman

Eben doubtful, RG OUT: https://www.rugbypass.com/news/springboks-coach-reveals-eben-etzebeth-under-injury-cloud-for-all-blacks/

W32

@taniwharugby said in Springboks vs All Blacks I:

@W32 is that a new sign or is that the pic from just after the RWC?

Even if re-hashed, quality trolling, win or lose, that sign will burn.

Don't know, saw it somewhere and had a giggle.

W32

@pakman said in Springboks vs All Blacks I:

Eben doubtful, RG OUT: https://www.rugbypass.com/news/springboks-coach-reveals-eben-etzebeth-under-injury-cloud-for-all-blacks/

Rats. Rassie mind games?

Bones

@W32 said in Springboks vs All Blacks I:

@pakman said in Springboks vs All Blacks I:

Eben doubtful, RG OUT: https://www.rugbypass.com/news/springboks-coach-reveals-eben-etzebeth-under-injury-cloud-for-all-blacks/

Rats. Rassie mind games?

Childish antics with players careers and their livelihoods. Ten year ban.

pakman

@W32 said in Springboks vs All Blacks I:

@pakman said in Springboks vs All Blacks I:

Eben doubtful, RG OUT: https://www.rugbypass.com/news/springboks-coach-reveals-eben-etzebeth-under-injury-cloud-for-all-blacks/

Rats. Rassie mind games?

We’ll know tomorrow.

mariner4life

those Stuff guys don't get paid for that do they? Some of those teams would look strange even if they were posted by some of the bigger mentalists on here.

Did two of them really promote Sititi and move Savea to 7?

These long breaks between tests are even messing up the "journos"

KiwiMurph

@mariner4life said in Springboks vs All Blacks I:

These long breaks between tests are even messing up the "journos"

That's generous. They write this rubbish without the breaks too.

Bovidae

I'm not defending them, but the teams were only part of the full article. The Post link is paywalled.

The official choice at fullback might tell us how much influence MacDonald had. I hope we don't see the Hinton backline.

Canes4life

I find it odd that the journos want mass changes before such a big test. We finally showed some form in that first half against the Argies at Eden Park, let's have some consistency in selection for once and let the same group back up in Jo-burg. If they fail miserably then look at making changes for the next test.

Ellis Park isn't the stage to throw the likes of Proctor and Sititi into the fray, who have had limited minutes so far. I hope the selectors are sensible and we see a similar 23 to what we saw at Eden Park almost two weeks ago.

antipodean

I'm not surprised "journos" write anything to stay employed.

MN5

@Canes4life said in Springboks vs All Blacks I:

I find it odd that the journos want mass changes before such a big test. We finally showed some form in that first half against the Argies at Eden Park, let's have some consistency in selection for once and let the same group back up in Jo-burg. If they fail miserably then look at making changes for the next test.

Ellis Park isn't the stage to throw the likes of Proctor and Sititi into the fray, who have had limited minutes so far. I hope the selectors are sensible and we see a similar 23 to what we saw at Eden Park almost two weeks ago.

You know shit is real when you’re not even advocating for Proctor to start

Canes4life

@MN5 he'll get his opportunity but throwing him in against South Africa at Ellis Park after only one test would be moronic. Same with Sititi and other young players in the squad. I think in this test we need as much experience on the park as we can get which is why I won't be surprised if Cane gets the nod at 7.

nzzp

@antipodean said in Springboks vs All Blacks I:

I'm not surprised "journos" write anything to stay employed.

do modern sports journos in NZ much more than minimum wage? I thought it was terribly paid unfortunately. @Smudge any insights?

The Silver Fern

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