Springboks vs All Blacks I
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@LatsToTheMax said in Springboks vs All Blacks I:
@W32 said in Springboks vs All Blacks I:
@nzzp said in Springboks vs All Blacks I:
@W32 said in Springboks vs All Blacks I:
@Jet said in Springboks vs All Blacks I:
15-5 penalty count?
Your side needs better discipline and game management
Ths is exactly what your supporters said to your team after the 2011 QF against Aus, eh
Are you saying the boks lost that game because of dodgy reffing?
Na, that you lot carried on like bitches and harassed a ref in to retirement all the while informing ABs supporters to get over it.
Informing AB supporters to get over the boks losing the quarter final in 2011?
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@Jet said in Springboks vs All Blacks I:
@Dan54 said in Springboks vs All Blacks I:
Well that people was what I call a test match. Geez I loved it, ok a slight disappointment at loss, but not enough to make me not love the game!
Thought it was a fair brefection of how game was played out, and would be disappoinetd with anyone blaming ref or individual player. That is how so many AB/Bok game have been played over the years and why I love them so much. Perhaps AB bench players will be a little disappointed, looked caught in headlights a bit, but fellas that's playing at Ellis Park, one of great rugby venues for AB/Bok tests.
Oh and anyone questioning the Boks first try? It was clearly a try, the ref put his hand in air and indicated such!Youve copied and pasted the same post into planet rugby forum you sad prick.
You wont even dignify us with exclusive content.
And the roar
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@LatsToTheMax said in Springboks vs All Blacks I:
@W32 said in Springboks vs All Blacks I:
@LatsToTheMax said in Springboks vs All Blacks I:
@W32 said in Springboks vs All Blacks I:
@Mattasaurus said in Springboks vs All Blacks I:
@Gunner said in Springboks vs All Blacks I:
Just watched.
We were totally fucked in the rucks, partly by ourselves but mostly that fucking fluffybunny ref. It’s like there were different rules for both teams.
The officiating of the rucks in the 1st 15mins was very fucking different to what we got pinged for later in the game....
same old dodgy bull shit in SA.. who'd thought.
We wuz robbed. Same as the WC final last year eh?
100% and they should come out and say so.
Who is “they”?
Players, coaches. Stop pussy footing around. They're coping more than their fair share of shit calls and it needs to called out.
We have been disproportionately hatcheted by refs since SBW's red in 2017. A laundry list of egregious calls.
Once you start to see it you cant unsee it.
This isnt a vintage Allblack team granted, but the stoicism in media and press conferences is getting us nowhere.
We are being manhandled.
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Watching now because I got home a bit munted after the John I Dent final.
Ethan "both sides of the ball" Blackadder couldn't pass to an umarked winger five metres out.
DMac decides to hand back possession from inside our 22 with a useless chip kick to nobody.
Blind ref penalises Ardie one metre from our line for "no clear release" when there's a clear as fuck release which should've been a penalty for holding on.
Blind Irish TMO can't see Mbonambe clearly lose possession over the line.
Cross kick to Clarke and a turnover penalty because South Africans are allowed to place their hands on the ground first.
Cane puts a hard shoulder on South African Black Jesus who coughs up the ball in contact.
Beautiful run by Rieko down the blindside from a scrum, draw and pass to put Jordan into space. Ethan too slow to get there to clean out.
Outstanding attack from turnover ball. DMac and then Lomax dummy to beat rushing defenders and put Clarke in.
Blind clown awards South Africa a scrum penalty despite the tighthead clearly on his knees.
Turnover because "both sides of the ball" can't get there in time to clean out the defender. Has there been a slower loose forward?
And that's the first half. Score should be 3 - 12
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@nzzp said in Springboks vs All Blacks I:
@W32 said in Springboks vs All Blacks I:
@Jet said in Springboks vs All Blacks I:
15-5 penalty count?
Your side needs better discipline and game management
Ths is exactly what your supporters said to your team after the 2011 QF against Aus, eh
So just so we’re clear, ok to blame losses on the ref then?
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Bokke have a Bomb Squad, we have a Damp Squib Squad
Bokke have a win the game mantra, we have win the social media supporters silver lake contract
Bokke fight tooth and nail too get low on the floor and high/long in the air, we go high in the tackle and can't get out of our half.In the real world of test match rugby, the ABs still have the glory years headspace without the players, leadership, tactics, or nous to back it up.
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@Machpants said in Springboks vs All Blacks I:
Bokke have a Bomb Squad, we have a Damp Squib Squad
Bokke have a win the game mantra, we have win the social media supporters silver lake contract
Bokke fight tooth and nail too get low on the floor and high/long in the air, we go high in the tackle and can't get out of our half.In the real world of test match rugby, the ABs still have the glory years headspace without the players, leadership, tactics, or nous to back it up.
You’ll be back, sooner than you think. Agree with your post
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The TMO debacle needs review by world rugby. A try scoring action is always the most reviewed action in any game - obviously because points are added but also because the game is stopped and there is time. The NRL run action replays and closeups as a matter of course, and given they have control over the broadcast. That this wasn’t done is substandard. That has to change. I hear some commentators talk about giving the game back to the ref to run. Frankly they aren’t up to it. Use the technology - it’s always gives a better result.
NB: One strange decision was to call Cortez offside picking up the ball from half back by a touchie or maybe TMO? It was one of those counter ruck situations with both sides having a crack. My first impression was that no one had won the ball, and it was open to be picked up.
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@antipodean said in Springboks vs All Blacks I:
Watching now because I got home a bit munted after the John I Dent final.
Ethan "both sides of the ball" Blackadder couldn't pass to an umarked winger five metres out.
DMac decides to hand back possession from inside our 22 with a useless chip kick to nobody.
Blind ref penalises Ardie one metre from our line for "no clear release" when there's a clear as fuck release which should've been a penalty for holding on.
Blind Irish TMO can't see Mbonambe clearly lose possession over the line.
Cross kick to Clarke and a turnover penalty because South Africans are allowed to place their hands on the ground first.
Cane puts a hard shoulder on South African Black Jesus who coughs up the ball in contact.
Beautiful run by Rieko down the blindside from a scrum, draw and pass to put Jordan into space. Ethan too slow to get there to clean out.
Outstanding attack from turnover ball. DMac and then Lomax dummy to beat rushing defenders and put Clarke in.
Blind clown awards South Africa a scrum penalty despite the tighthead clearly on his knees.
Turnover because "both sides of the ball" can't get there in time to clean out the defender. Has there been a slower loose forward?
And that's the first half. Score should be 3 - 12
Agree with a lot of what you say - but your Blackadder hatred does run deep.....
Ethan was one of my top 3 players today (as have a # of other Ferners going by the MOTM thread)..... cos as you say -- the work on both sides of the ball...
In answer to your slower loose fwds - not trolling... but Frizzel and Ioane were not speed merchants either.... and sure as shit didn't put the consistent work in that Blackadder is showing so far...
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So much to like today.
Our game plan was on point, we played with strength and control up front, we created great chances to score, and we did so with well taken tries. We did make a series of small errors that increasingly cost us in terms of pressure and in points. When the bomb squad came on we struggled to stop their rolling maul, and they ground us down and our bench failed to have the desired impact, as we could have predicted in the Argie tests. There were some pretty questionable decisions by the ref in the last 10, but after everything we still should have won the game. What isn't in doubt is that the Springboks were gifted a try that clearly wasn't in the first half
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@Mattasaurus EB had a good game. A lot of our leaders stood up today. We made too many errors in the wrong part of the park, and Razor has to look closely at the bench to combat what is a strong part of the Books team
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@canefan said in Springboks vs All Blacks I:
So much to like today.
Our game plan was on point, we played with strength and control up front, we created great chances to score, and we did so with well taken tries. We did make a series of small errors that increasingly cost us in terms of pressure and in points. When the bomb squad came on we struggled to stop their rolling maul, and they ground us down and our bench failed to have the desired impact, as we could have predicted in the Argie tests. There were some pretty questionable decisions by the ref in the last 10, but after everything we still should have won the game. What isn't in doubt is that the Springboks were gifted a try that clearly wasn't in the first half
I thought in the last quarter , the boks reverted to their more traditional game , and we probably struggled with that a bit . Well our subs were not as capable as theirs anyway .
Their earlier desire to do a bit more with the ball probably suited us .
But we did a lot right to get into a winnable position, hard to tell from the tv , but it looked like dmac was playing extra deep like a second receiver and when we simply put it through the hands we found space , just like that we were on the outside of the rush D .
Maybe that was the rangi dispute ? Something looked different in the setup .
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@kiwiinmelb said in Springboks vs All Blacks I:
@canefan said in Springboks vs All Blacks I:
So much to like today.
Our game plan was on point, we played with strength and control up front, we created great chances to score, and we did so with well taken tries. We did make a series of small errors that increasingly cost us in terms of pressure and in points. When the bomb squad came on we struggled to stop their rolling maul, and they ground us down and our bench failed to have the desired impact, as we could have predicted in the Argie tests. There were some pretty questionable decisions by the ref in the last 10, but after everything we still should have won the game. What isn't in doubt is that the Springboks were gifted a try that clearly wasn't in the first half
I thought in the last quarter , the boks reverted to their more traditional game , and we probably struggled with that a bit . Well our subs were not as capable as theirs anyway .
Their earlier desire to do a bit more with the ball probably suited us .
But we did a lot right to get into a winnable position, hard to tell from the tv , but it looked like dmac was playing extra deep like a second receiver and when we simply put it through the hands we found space , just like that we were on the outside of the rush D .
Maybe that was the rangi dispute ? Something looked different in the setup .
I'm not expert enough to technically asses styles. But we seemed to create better chances and scored better tries through our structures as opposed to long range counter attacking scores
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On a side note, it was great not to have the tackle area picked apart by an overreaching TMO. I thought the ref generally had a good game. While we probably got a raw deal on a few examples in the final minutes, some of that was due to the Boks raising their game
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I never do this, but that was a fucking disgraceful display of refereeing. That was black and white tour to south africa shit. Get fucked no one saw that first "try". The double standards at the ruck were blatant and disgraceful. I don't know who these cheating fluffybunnies were but they should never get the gig again.
An absolute robbery.
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Perfect start to the second half as Jordie catches a gift of an intercept and races away like the lanky giraffe he is.
Ability to exit our own half again an issue as DMac appears to be the best option to catch a kick off and we immediately turn it over. WTF
Less than four minutes into the second half and the Boks need to be replaced en masse.
"both sides of the ball" gives away a penalty in front of the sticks for not rolling away.
Vaa'i with excellent patience and decision making to get a turnover penalty from the kick off..
Arendse knocks himself stupid with an attempted tackle on Rieko's hip. That's South Africa's first legitimate HIA..?
Ref gives everyone a breather of over two minutes so Kolisi can get
major surgerya minor cut wiped away by the waterboy."both sides of the ball" bounced off in a tackle attempt.
Cane shows how its done with a great covering tackle on Kriel forces a knock on.
Two phases from the scrum and DMac puts up a shit kick from our side of halfway to be caught in their 22 and a mark called. Meanwhile we have a clear overlap back on the left where the scrum was... Is this our new attack?
Lineout thrown over the top to Jordie who knocks it back to TJP, to DMac, to Beaudy who draws the fullback and Clarke's in for a second.
Exits ffs. Beaudy kicks out on the full after the ball is passed back into the 22.
Williams decides he's a better scrumhalf than TJP so throws a pass to Clarke on the sideline who wisely passes back in field and Jordie has to punt it downfield. What is it with forwards trying to do work that requires a modicum of intellect? The kick is returned which Jordan knocks on and South Africa have a scrum just outside our 22.
Another 90 second rest period for no reason.
South African scrum getting munted turns 90° and ref
penalises themgives them another attempt. Probably because they're tired from the rest they just had.Blackadder is so fucking ineffective at everything he does.
Commentator calls Newell a mobile prop. A bit of humour to start the day.
DMac too deep and a nice kick from the fullback Fassi is regathered. Jordan cleans up but South Africa end up with a lineout five metres out. Kolisi
needs a restgoes off for a HIA.Shot at goal declined for a lineout five metres out. Two hitups by the forwards and TJP is miles away calling for forwards to "get in there" so South Africa obliges and steals the ball.
South African lying on the ground offside at the tackle plays the fucking ball in front of the ref and AR.
How fucking slow is Ethan Blackadder?
Maul clearly stops twice and ref decides instead to give Ofa a yellow card.
Newell displays his "mobility" by being too slow to defend at the ruck and South African barge over under the posts.
Louw says welcome to Ellis Park and sits Finau on his arse. Cane shows him how its done by smashing Kwagga Smith.
Wray, hopelessly out of his depth and out of position, gives South Africa a five metre lineout for a kick that looks to have gone dead.
Ball is lifted by reserve halfback, Cane times his run perfectly. Dimwit with the whistle calls him offside.
de Allende on the All Blacks side of the ruck holds Finau back from covering across and the reserve halfback gleefully takes the gap to score.
Marx comes in and rips the ball while Darry has a knee on the ground. Ardie attempts a turnover but the canny Irish ref sees he was a millimetre offside somehow despite both feet being on the All Black side of the Bok player on the ground.
And with two minutes left on the clock, needing a try to win, Beaudy keeps kicking the ball away.
A final 20mins almost as shit as the South African coverage and refereeing.
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@cgrant said in Springboks vs All Blacks I:
Ref was a disBrace. Every 50/50 call was against the ABs. The non tackle on Darry and then the penalty against Ardie were just incredible. That said, the ABs were poor during the second half, particularly BB, Finau and Jordan. Why did BB kick away so many hard won possessions with just a few minutes to play and ABs trailing by 4 points ?
From an experienced player, that was just insane !Beaudie has been doing this for years now.
It's farking insane.
One of the best runners in the game and his brain tells him to do a shit kick every time he kicks it.
Not only that he's lost the ability to get any distance.
2 kicks out on the full then another to touch before the hooter goes.
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@Mattasaurus said in Springboks vs All Blacks I:
@antipodean said in Springboks vs All Blacks I:
Watching now because I got home a bit munted after the John I Dent final.
Ethan "both sides of the ball" Blackadder couldn't pass to an umarked winger five metres out.
DMac decides to hand back possession from inside our 22 with a useless chip kick to nobody.
Blind ref penalises Ardie one metre from our line for "no clear release" when there's a clear as fuck release which should've been a penalty for holding on.
Blind Irish TMO can't see Mbonambe clearly lose possession over the line.
Cross kick to Clarke and a turnover penalty because South Africans are allowed to place their hands on the ground first.
Cane puts a hard shoulder on South African Black Jesus who coughs up the ball in contact.
Beautiful run by Rieko down the blindside from a scrum, draw and pass to put Jordan into space. Ethan too slow to get there to clean out.
Outstanding attack from turnover ball. DMac and then Lomax dummy to beat rushing defenders and put Clarke in.
Blind clown awards South Africa a scrum penalty despite the tighthead clearly on his knees.
Turnover because "both sides of the ball" can't get there in time to clean out the defender. Has there been a slower loose forward?
And that's the first half. Score should be 3 - 12
Agree with a lot of what you say - but your Blackadder hatred does run deep.....
Ethan was one of my top 3 players today (as have a # of other Ferners going by the MOTM thread)..... cos as you say -- the work on both sides of the ball...
In answer to your slower loose fwds - not trolling... but Frizzel and Ioane were not speed merchants either.... and sure as shit didn't put the consistent work in that Blackadder is showing so far...
A Ioane faster than EB imho
