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    BerniesCorner
    wrote on last edited by Duluth
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    De Groot
    Taylor
    Lomax
    Darry (Captain)
    Vaa'i
    Paps
    Sititi
    Savea
    Ratima
    DMac
    Clarke
    JB
    Proctor
    Jordan
    BB

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    I'd like to see :

    De Groot
    Aumua
    Lomax
    Darry
    Vaa'i
    Finau
    Jacobson
    Savea
    Ratima
    DMac
    Clarke
    ALB
    Proctor
    Jordan
    Love

    Taylor
    Williams
    Tosi
    Lord
    Sititi
    Hotham
    Ioane
    BB

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    MiketheSnow
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    Can Telea put the ball in and pass better than TJP because no one is stopping him from the back of the scrum or ruck

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    I'd love to see Akira Ioane and Hoskins Sotutu as forward ball-carriers are our biggest need, but we are not going to.

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    @sparky said in All Blacks v Argentina 2:

    I'd love to see Akira Ioane and Hoskins Sotutu as forward ball-carriers are our biggest need, but we are not going to.

    No more changes until the EOYT I assume

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    family man
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    Finau has to play at 6 and hopefully tuipolotu is back

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    Mr Fish
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    @family-man said in All Blacks v Argentina 2:

    Finau has to play at 6 and hopefully tuipolotu is back

    What has Tuipulotu done that makes you want him back?

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    SBW1
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    Next game is at the Fortress, Razor won't want any more blots on the copybook after tonight.

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    sparky
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    Earn it up front first, then spin it wide when the gaps appear.

    Make smart decisions. Be the smarter and more ruthless team.

    Fight for absolutely everything at the breakdown and in defence for 80 minutes.

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    For me, a focussed approach to selection required.

    I think we can safely assume Sevu will make way for Clarke.

    In starting tight five I'd only swap out Paddy T (assuming fit), with Vaa'i replacing Lord on bench. Adds go forward and known combo with Darry.

    Ratima to pair with DMac. Other starting backs tricky, but I'd like to see Jordan start with BB on bench.

    Loosies need to win breakdown!!!! That really needs a rewatch to firm up on but initial feeling is that if RD nailed in then Finau at 6. Two of Paps/Niggles/LJ/Cane to make up rest of 23. My hunch is that Finau would work well with Sergeant Sam.

    Bench would stick with Newell, not much to choose between Ofa and Tamaiti, a hooker who can throw straight would be nice, TJS?, BB and Rieko/ALB/Proctor, depending on who gets the start at 13.

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    canefan
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    Changes in selection strategy will probably require a change in gameplan

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    How come some of our best players cant now play for 80 minutes.

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    Are there any other head coaches available out there?

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    @BerniesCorner said in All Blacks v Argentina 2:

    How come some of our best players cant now play for 80 minutes.

    Maybe they can, but they aren’t given the chance to?

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    I’d be bringing in Bell, Williams, Havili

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    Bones
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    I think there were probably already a few changes lined up for test two (Finau, Clarke, Proctor, props). So we'll never know what's reactionary but I fucking hope this loss doesn't mean players get a second chance to prove themselves.

    Maybe Jase Ryan can cut the smart arse shit and answer questions too, he should have a few to answer.

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    A lot of people are blaming Razor or asking for Foster back. Has it not occurred to you that the recent shocking results over the years are due to brain dead players, not the coaches? You can’t have backline with the two Barrett’s in it and expect it to function. You can’t have a captain who helps opposition players off the ground and cries in Instagram videos and expect him to lead a team.

    They’re soft. The passing from Dmac out of hand is atrocious. He hasn't improved for the past 4-5 seasons. People don’t understand how much of a loss Brett Cameron is to New Zealand rugby.

    We need Cane back, we need a new 10. We need TJP away from the black jersey, we need Proctor and ALB in the centres, we need a decent six that can stand up

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    @sparky two marshmallows who have had plenty of opportunities and did nothing? No thanks

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    @KiwiInLondon said in All Blacks v Argentina 2:

    People don’t understand how much of a loss Brett Cameron is to New Zealand rugby.

    Huh?

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    @African-Monkey said in All Blacks v Argentina 2:

    @KiwiInLondon said in All Blacks v Argentina 2:

    People don’t understand how much of a loss Brett Cameron is to New Zealand rugby.

    Huh?

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