All Blacks vs Argentina I
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Can't remember ABs having so much prospective depth at halfback.
Roigard, Ratima, Hotham, Viljoen, Pledger, Christie, Perenara
Unreal
Can see a running halfback being a real point of difference.Attack the inside channels using Savea, Ratima and DMac.
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@Canes4life said in All Blacks vs Argentina I - 10 August:
Yeah we all know Cam’s injury cost a title this year. 😄
You lost Roigard, but we played Christie.
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@BerniesCorner said in All Blacks vs Argentina I - 10 August:
Can't remember ABs having so much prospective depth at halfback.
Roigard, Ratima, Hotham, Viljoen, Pledger, Christie, Perenara
Unreal
Can see a running halfback being a real point of difference.Attack the inside channels using Savea, Ratima and DMac.
Who the hell is Pledger?
And I’ve heard Viljoen’s name mentioned a few times.
He’s not a realistic chance after 3 or 4 appearances from the bench in super rugby. I’m not saying he won’t get there, but I’d like to see some evidence before we put him in any AB 9 depth chart.
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@Gunner said in All Blacks vs Argentina I - 10 August:
@BerniesCorner said in All Blacks vs Argentina I - 10 August:
Can't remember ABs having so much prospective depth at halfback.
Roigard, Ratima, Hotham, Viljoen, Pledger, Christie, Perenara
Unreal
Can see a running halfback being a real point of difference.Attack the inside channels using Savea, Ratima and DMac.
Who the hell is Pledger?
And I’ve heard Viljoen’s name mentioned a few times.
He’s not a realistic chance after 3 or 4 appearances from the bench in super rugby. I’m not saying he won’t get there, but I’d like to see some evidence before we put him in any AB 9 depth chart.
Yeah the post is pretty much ( insert every super rugby player in any given position ) and ‘wow, look at the depth we have’
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@BerniesCorner said in All Blacks vs Argentina I - 10 August:
Can't remember ABs having so much prospective depth at halfback.
Roigard, Ratima, Hotham, Viljoen, Pledger,Christie, Funaki PerenaraFixed
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@BerniesCorner said in All Blacks vs Argentina I - 10 August:
Can't remember ABs having so much prospective depth at halfback.
Roigard, Ratima, Hotham, Viljoen, Pledger, Christie, Perenara
Unreal
Can see a running halfback being a real point of difference.Attack the inside channels using Savea, Ratima and DMac.
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@pakman said in All Blacks vs Argentina I - 10 August:
I thought bouncing a bench press off one's chest and arching the back were no nos?
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@nostrildamus only in comps?!
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@Gunner said in All Blacks vs Argentina I - 10 August:
@BerniesCorner said in All Blacks vs Argentina I - 10 August:
Can't remember ABs having so much prospective depth at halfback.
Roigard, Ratima, Hotham, Viljoen, Pledger, Christie, Perenara
Unreal
Can see a running halfback being a real point of difference.Attack the inside channels using Savea, Ratima and DMac.
Who the hell is Pledger?
And I’ve heard Viljoen’s name mentioned a few times.
He’s not a realistic chance after 3 or 4 appearances from the bench in super rugby. I’m not saying he won’t get there, but I’d like to see some evidence before we put him in any AB 9 depth chart.
I think what BC says is not that far out. He said prospective depth, not depth. I think a few have a bit to go etc, but I do think Pledger looks to have makings of a good one. Like any prospect it's how they continue to develop.
Shit I reckon at 10 Rico Simpson is a hell of a prospect too. -
@nostrildamus said in All Blacks vs Argentina I - 10 August:
@pakman said in All Blacks vs Argentina I - 10 August:
I thought bouncing a bench press off one's chest and arching the back were no nos?
It’s becoming more and more common , the theory is it reduces the range of motion allowing you to push more for strength gains .
I don’t flat bench anymore because my shoulders are rooted so I’ve never really tried it to have an opinion on it either way
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@kiwiinmelb I also think there is a big difference between what they are doing vs powerlifting and strict lifts.
There will likely be variances that are likely more specific to the requirements of rugby (explosiveness being a big part that a power lifter isnt looking for)
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@kiwiinmelb said in All Blacks vs Argentina I - 10 August:
@nostrildamus said in All Blacks vs Argentina I - 10 August:
@pakman said in All Blacks vs Argentina I - 10 August:
I thought bouncing a bench press off one's chest and arching the back were no nos?
It’s becoming more and more common , the theory is it reduces the range of motion allowing you to push more for strength gains .
I don’t flat bench anymore because my shoulders are rooted so I’ve never really tried it to have an opinion on it either way
Weighted dips are the way to go. More functional in my opinion ( and yes way easier on the shoulders particularly for those of us over 40 )
Although they do help you bench too.
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@MN5 said in All Blacks vs Argentina I - 10 August:
@kiwiinmelb said in All Blacks vs Argentina I - 10 August:
@nostrildamus said in All Blacks vs Argentina I - 10 August:
@pakman said in All Blacks vs Argentina I - 10 August:
I thought bouncing a bench press off one's chest and arching the back were no nos?
It’s becoming more and more common , the theory is it reduces the range of motion allowing you to push more for strength gains .
I don’t flat bench anymore because my shoulders are rooted so I’ve never really tried it to have an opinion on it either way
Weighted dips are the way to go. More functional in my opinion.
Although they do help you bench too.
I bench on a smith machine now with a slight decline and I can eliminate flaring up shoulder pain
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Same. It’s great as long as you get the initial setup right. Even better for incline IMO
Never understood the hate for it
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@Dan54 said in All Blacks vs Argentina I - 10 August:
@Gunner said in All Blacks vs Argentina I - 10 August:
@BerniesCorner said in All Blacks vs Argentina I - 10 August:
Can't remember ABs having so much prospective depth at halfback.
Roigard, Ratima, Hotham, Viljoen, Pledger, Christie, Perenara
Unreal
Can see a running halfback being a real point of difference.Attack the inside channels using Savea, Ratima and DMac.
Who the hell is Pledger?
And I’ve heard Viljoen’s name mentioned a few times.
He’s not a realistic chance after 3 or 4 appearances from the bench in super rugby. I’m not saying he won’t get there, but I’d like to see some evidence before we put him in any AB 9 depth chart.
I think what BC says is not that far out. He said prospective depth, not depth. I think a few have a bit to go etc, but I do think Pledger looks to have makings of a good one. Like any prospect it's how they continue to develop.
Shit I reckon at 10 Rico Simpson is a hell of a prospect too.We always have good prospective depth. Real depth, on the other hand?
