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    @Bones typical, you're straight in with a septic response.

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    @Bones said in All Blacks vs Argentina I - 10 August:

    @SBW1 said in All Blacks vs Argentina I - 10 August:

    Harry Plumber called into the wider training squad, has to be a good thing.

    Let's hope it doesn't go to waste. One for the future pipeline.

    I'm gonna flush that comment and move on

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    @canefan said in All Blacks vs Argentina I - 10 August:

    @Canes4life said in All Blacks vs Argentina I - 10 August:

    @canefan said in All Blacks vs Argentina I - 10 August:

    @nostrildamus said in All Blacks vs Argentina I - 10 August:

    @Canes4life said in All Blacks vs Argentina I - 10 August:

    @Frank said in All Blacks vs Argentina I - 10 August:

    @Canes4life said in All Blacks vs Argentina I - 10 August:

    @cgrant said in All Blacks vs Argentina I - 10 August:

    @sparky
    Hoping for something like :

    De Groot
    Aumua
    Lomax
    Tuipolutu
    Darry
    Finau
    Papali'i
    Savea
    Ratima
    DMac
    Clarke
    J. Barrett
    Proctor
    Jordan
    Love

    Taylor
    Williams
    Newell or Tosi
    Vaai
    Sititi
    TJP
    Ioane
    B. Barrett

    Would love to see that backline get a run at some point.

    J. Barrett
    Proctor
    Love

    I'm sure you would 👍

    Add Roigard to that backline and it’s even better. Having four Canes in the backline is the obvious ingredient to success. 😁

    Not in the competition I saw this year..

    To be fair we were top of the table when Cam was fit

    Yeah we all know Cam’s injury cost a title this year. 😄

    I wouldn't go that far. But his loss can't be understated

    I wasn’t being totally serious but his form was very good and his injury probably hindered our chances by quite a fair bit.

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    Can't remember ABs having so much prospective depth at halfback.
    Roigard, Ratima, Hotham, Viljoen, Pledger, Christie, Perenara
    Unreal
    Can see a running halfback being a real point of difference.

    Attack the inside channels using Savea, Ratima and DMac.

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    @Canes4life said in All Blacks vs Argentina I - 10 August:

    Yeah we all know Cam’s injury cost a title this year. 😄

    You lost Roigard, but we played Christie.

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    @BerniesCorner said in All Blacks vs Argentina I - 10 August:

    Can't remember ABs having so much prospective depth at halfback.
    Roigard, Ratima, Hotham, Viljoen, Pledger, Christie, Perenara
    Unreal
    Can see a running halfback being a real point of difference.

    Attack the inside channels using Savea, Ratima and DMac.

    Who the hell is Pledger?

    And I’ve heard Viljoen’s name mentioned a few times.

    He’s not a realistic chance after 3 or 4 appearances from the bench in super rugby. I’m not saying he won’t get there, but I’d like to see some evidence before we put him in any AB 9 depth chart.

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    @Gunner said in All Blacks vs Argentina I - 10 August:

    @BerniesCorner said in All Blacks vs Argentina I - 10 August:

    Can't remember ABs having so much prospective depth at halfback.
    Roigard, Ratima, Hotham, Viljoen, Pledger, Christie, Perenara
    Unreal
    Can see a running halfback being a real point of difference.

    Attack the inside channels using Savea, Ratima and DMac.

    Who the hell is Pledger?

    And I’ve heard Viljoen’s name mentioned a few times.

    He’s not a realistic chance after 3 or 4 appearances from the bench in super rugby. I’m not saying he won’t get there, but I’d like to see some evidence before we put him in any AB 9 depth chart.

    Yeah the post is pretty much ( insert every super rugby player in any given position ) and ‘wow, look at the depth we have’

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    @BerniesCorner said in All Blacks vs Argentina I - 10 August:

    Can't remember ABs having so much prospective depth at halfback.
    Roigard, Ratima, Hotham, Viljoen, Pledger, Christie, Funaki Perenara

    Fixed

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    I thought Pledger looked very on the small side too. Is he?

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    @BerniesCorner said in All Blacks vs Argentina I - 10 August:

    Can't remember ABs having so much prospective depth at halfback.
    Roigard, Ratima, Hotham, Viljoen, Pledger, Christie, Perenara
    Unreal
    Can see a running halfback being a real point of difference.

    Attack the inside channels using Savea, Ratima and DMac.

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    Is that Ratima lifting?

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    @Frank said in All Blacks vs Argentina I - 10 August:

    Is that Ratima lifting?

    I'm also struggling to identify people by their chins and calves.

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    @Bones https://www.stuff.co.nz/sport/350367444/all-blacks-call-harry-plummer-and-hand-captaincy-ardie-savea-argentina-tests?fbclid=IwY2xjawEdrPlleHRuA2FlbQIxMQABHcjMJdrpyGBoOdKLnp-A9Ri-W8XOXttYSTNzJN0SLR3jDHJM1vjhFuNiSA_aem_UJyfs2frgKQ1Ux18Trw5nQ

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    @pakman said in All Blacks vs Argentina I - 10 August:

    I thought bouncing a bench press off one's chest and arching the back were no nos?

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    @nostrildamus only in comps?!

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    @Gunner said in All Blacks vs Argentina I - 10 August:

    @BerniesCorner said in All Blacks vs Argentina I - 10 August:

    Can't remember ABs having so much prospective depth at halfback.
    Roigard, Ratima, Hotham, Viljoen, Pledger, Christie, Perenara
    Unreal
    Can see a running halfback being a real point of difference.

    Attack the inside channels using Savea, Ratima and DMac.

    Who the hell is Pledger?

    And I’ve heard Viljoen’s name mentioned a few times.

    He’s not a realistic chance after 3 or 4 appearances from the bench in super rugby. I’m not saying he won’t get there, but I’d like to see some evidence before we put him in any AB 9 depth chart.

    I think what BC says is not that far out. He said prospective depth, not depth. I think a few have a bit to go etc, but I do think Pledger looks to have makings of a good one. Like any prospect it's how they continue to develop.
    Shit I reckon at 10 Rico Simpson is a hell of a prospect too.

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    @nostrildamus said in All Blacks vs Argentina I - 10 August:

    @pakman said in All Blacks vs Argentina I - 10 August:

    I thought bouncing a bench press off one's chest and arching the back were no nos?

    It’s becoming more and more common , the theory is it reduces the range of motion allowing you to push more for strength gains .

    I don’t flat bench anymore because my shoulders are rooted so I’ve never really tried it to have an opinion on it either way

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    @kiwiinmelb I also think there is a big difference between what they are doing vs powerlifting and strict lifts.

    There will likely be variances that are likely more specific to the requirements of rugby (explosiveness being a big part that a power lifter isnt looking for)

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    @kiwiinmelb said in All Blacks vs Argentina I - 10 August:

    @nostrildamus said in All Blacks vs Argentina I - 10 August:

    @pakman said in All Blacks vs Argentina I - 10 August:

    I thought bouncing a bench press off one's chest and arching the back were no nos?

    It’s becoming more and more common , the theory is it reduces the range of motion allowing you to push more for strength gains .

    I don’t flat bench anymore because my shoulders are rooted so I’ve never really tried it to have an opinion on it either way

    Weighted dips are the way to go. More functional in my opinion ( and yes way easier on the shoulders particularly for those of us over 40 )

    Although they do help you bench too.

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    @MN5 said in All Blacks vs Argentina I - 10 August:

    @kiwiinmelb said in All Blacks vs Argentina I - 10 August:

    @nostrildamus said in All Blacks vs Argentina I - 10 August:

    @pakman said in All Blacks vs Argentina I - 10 August:

    I thought bouncing a bench press off one's chest and arching the back were no nos?

    It’s becoming more and more common , the theory is it reduces the range of motion allowing you to push more for strength gains .

    I don’t flat bench anymore because my shoulders are rooted so I’ve never really tried it to have an opinion on it either way

    Weighted dips are the way to go. More functional in my opinion.

    Although they do help you bench too.

    I bench on a smith machine now with a slight decline and I can eliminate flaring up shoulder pain

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