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    @george33 What do you mean achieved?

    Assuming Aaron Smith is floating somewhere around the countrywe're picking the sixth best halfback in the country.

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    @george33 said in All Blacks vs England 2:

    @KiwiMurph shouldn't even be in the conversation, better opinions but that's what happens

    He should be in the conversation. He's good. Both Hotham and Funaki had better seasons than Fakatava. They went with Hotham. No issues.

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    @Chris-B what's he done, crusaders didn't make top 8, yet Blues, Chiefs, Hurricanes, Highlanders did , think there is a bit of bullshit hold your hand going on.

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    @george33 said in All Blacks vs England 2:

    @Chris-B what's he done, crusaders didn't make top 8, yet Blues, Chiefs, Hurricanes, Highlanders did , think there is a bit of bullshit hold your hand going on.

    He got groomed by the current coach, who likes players he picked. Simple.

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    @george33 said in All Blacks vs England 2:

    @Chris-B what's he done, crusaders didn't make top 8, yet Blues, Chiefs, Hurricanes, Highlanders did , think there is a bit of bullshit hold your hand going on.

    This is a new and stupid argument that we didn't hear much of when the Crusaders won seven titles in a row.

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    @Chris-B said in All Blacks vs England 2:

    @george33 said in All Blacks vs England 2:

    @Chris-B what's he done, crusaders didn't make top 8, yet Blues, Chiefs, Hurricanes, Highlanders did , think there is a bit of bullshit hold your hand going on.

    This is a new and stupid argument that we didn't hear much of when the Crusaders won seven titles in a row.

    It is, on that basis Reece ,Taylor,Newell,Barrett etc should not be in the AB's.

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    @Chris Not sure how anyone who wasn't a Crusader (or a Jaapie) played in the World Cup final last year! 🙂

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    They are calling in a player they are familiar with (and have worked with a lot before) as injury cover. A player that could be needed at short notice with one more 9 injury. A promising young player. It's not a conspiracy.

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    @KiwiMurph said in All Blacks vs England 2:

    They are calling in a player they are familiar with (and have worked with a lot before) as injury cover. A player that could be needed at short notice with one more 9 injury. A promising young player. It's not a conspiracy.

    Exactly.

    He's the fifth choice!

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    @Chris-B probably 3 better options, coaches need to look out of there comfort zone on this 1 , anyway it is what it is.

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    @george33 who? i would argue someone like Fakatava was the "safe" option as has been in and amoungst the AB a lot before, they opted to bring in someone new presumably based on liking what they see

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    @Kiwiwomble I definitely rate, Fakatava, Funaki ahead of him, Funaki was the form 9 until Christie returned, if we don't go on super form for backups what's the point of it? just because U have coached him Before at super , well this ain't super look around razor and co , U might be surprised or is this just another us v them situation, any way that's my opinion on it.

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    @Kiwiwomble My memory of the Breakdown last night is they were favouring Hotham - which is an independent assessment from the AB selectors.

    They discussed Fakatava and the nub seemed to be that his key strength is running, but almost certainly if the new halfback had to be used he'd come off the bench - and if we were well ahead it wouldn't matter, but in a tight test you'd want a different skillset.

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    @Crazy-Horse said in All Blacks vs England 2:

    @SBW1 said in All Blacks vs England 2:

    Noah Hotham?

    I suspect he may be close to getting picked. Not saying I would select him, but when he started looking like he belonged in Super Rugby this year he showed a handy running game, a crisp pass and the ability to clear under pressure.

    He could be the backline selection version of Bell.

    Yep NZR said begiining of last year they had tabs on Hotham!

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    @Chris-B the Breakdown haha, that's a great name who watches that bullshit

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    Funaki was outstanding for the Blues.
    Hothham doesn't look too bad either.

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    Crusaders coaching teams picks crusaders player for higher honors? Colour me shocked.

    Funaki had a far better season than he did, almost pushing out Christie.

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    @Kirwan I still don't understand why Funaki was replaced.

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    @Frank said in All Blacks vs England 2:

    @Kirwan I still don't understand why Funaki was replaced.

    the much maligned Christie made some big plays in the playoff run. His pass isn't top drawer but he brings other things to the table. Just like Marshall back in the day 😛

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    @nzzp
    That's it with him isn't it.
    He's always getting in (to the Blues and ABs) based on experience.
    He wasn't outstanding, just solid.

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