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    @frugby said in All Blacks vs England 2:

    I think we've also seen why the coaches wanted to bring back Whitelock, Frizell and Mo'unga.

    Undeniable that all three massively upgrade the team because they possess things that others simply don't have.

    I’ve ever seen such a nice write up of Frizell on here.

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    @African-Monkey said in All Blacks vs England 2:

    Man, this forum is crazy. We're in a transition period and things will take time getting used to. Like yeah, players had indifferent nights, but if it were up to people on Here, we'd make about 13 changes a test just to get peoples favourites in. They're still finding their feet and getting used to things under a nee coaching system. It always seems to be the same parochial bias as well which clouds everyone's judgement.

    Yeah - there's some weird stuff being written.

    Honestly, last year this team is about the strength of team we were running out to play Namibia.

    We've been shorn of Coles, Taukei'aho, Laulala, Retallick, Whitelock, Lord, Frizell, Cane, Aaron Smith, Roigard, Perenara, Mo'unga, Jordan, Fainga'anuku and doubtless a few others I'm overlooking. Nine guys who played in the RWC final.

    And we've just beaten England 2-0 with a couple of weeks prep. I'm delighted and slightly surprised.

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    @MN5 said in All Blacks vs England 2:

    @frugby said in All Blacks vs England 2:

    I think we've also seen why the coaches wanted to bring back Whitelock, Frizell and Mo'unga.

    Undeniable that all three massively upgrade the team because they possess things that others simply don't have.

    I’ve ever seen such a nice write up of Frizell on here.

    He's been fluffed by multiple posters in the thread. It's like we're infected by Frizell bots.

    If we're all being honest, Mo's getting overhyped too, the longer he's away the better his test performances have become.

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    @Nepia said in All Blacks vs England 2:

    @MN5 said in All Blacks vs England 2:

    @frugby said in All Blacks vs England 2:

    I think we've also seen why the coaches wanted to bring back Whitelock, Frizell and Mo'unga.

    Undeniable that all three massively upgrade the team because they possess things that others simply don't have.

    I’ve ever seen such a nice write up of Frizell on here.

    > He's been fluffed by multiple posters in the thread. It's like we're infected by Frizell bots.

    If we're all being honest, Mo's getting overhyped too, the longer he's away the better his test performances have become.

    Hmmmm, I always got the impression all he did was steal caps from Akira Ioane ?

    That test against SA was something else though, his power and ball running were something else. Shame he was inconsistent

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    @frugby I've been impressed by DMac. Think he's looked great now that he knows his role in the team and that he'll get an extended run there.

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    @Nepia "Don't it always seem to go, that you don't know what you've got till it's gone."

    Told you guys a couple of years ago that Richie the Mo was probably the best first five in the world - Danny Boy (and World Rugby) have come around to my view.

    Will Matthews  /  Apr 30, 2024  /  The Rugby Championship

    Dan Carter weighs in on the huge All Blacks eligibility debate

    Dan Carter weighs in on the huge All Blacks eligibility debate

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    Frizz was a lot more effective than you guys thought. We rarely lost when he played.

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    @Chris-B said in All Blacks vs England 2:

    @Nepia "Don't it always seem to go, that you don't know what you've got till it's gone."

    Told you guys a couple of years ago that Richie the Mo was probably the best first five in the world - Danny Boy (and World Rugby) have come around to my view.

    Will Matthews  /  Apr 30, 2024  /  The Rugby Championship

    Dan Carter weighs in on the huge All Blacks eligibility debate

    Dan Carter weighs in on the huge All Blacks eligibility debate

    All Blacks legend Dan Carter has weighed in on the eligibility debate in New Zealand Rugby following comments made by new head coach Scott Roberston.

    Frizz was a lot more effective than you guys thought. We rarely lost when he played.

    DC is a clear example of the best player doesn't make the best selector. 😉

    Also you know the old saying correlation does not equal causation, but good you got your ex- Ta$man boy's back.

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    If Perofeta had passed inside or if Telea had more pace we'd be lauding DMac's counter attack to set up a brilliant try.

    A step in the right direction for DMac last night

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    @kev said in All Blacks vs England 2:

    @voodoo said in All Blacks vs England 2:

    Why does Scott Barrett do that half-arsed chargedown attempt at every single oppo ruck box-clearance? I don't feel like he's got one since 1993 and it just leaves him late to the next phase

    Because he puts 100% into everything. He is the Richie McCaw of this team. Huge motor.

    Sorry bro, but that’s a dumb response. Don’t disagree that he gives 100%, but that doesn’t mean this particular play is sensible and worthwhile. He’d be better off only challenging where he can realistically influence the play - atm he doesn’t put any pressure on the kicker and is just wasting energy. If he dropped this, he’d be able to give something like 104% in other areas…🤪

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    @Chris-B said in All Blacks vs England 2:

    @Nepia "Don't it always seem to go, that you don't know what you've got till it's gone."

    Told you guys a couple of years ago that Richie the Mo was probably the best first five in the world - Danny Boy (and World Rugby) have come around to my view.

    Will Matthews  /  Apr 30, 2024  /  The Rugby Championship

    Dan Carter weighs in on the huge All Blacks eligibility debate

    Dan Carter weighs in on the huge All Blacks eligibility debate

    All Blacks legend Dan Carter has weighed in on the eligibility debate in New Zealand Rugby following comments made by new head coach Scott Roberston.

    Frizz was a lot more effective than you guys thought. We rarely lost when he played.

    If Richie is the best 10 in the world I'd expect him to make some more vital kicks in the last RWC...

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    @Nepia said in All Blacks vs England 2:

    Also you know the old saying correlation does not equal causation, but good you got your ex- Ta$man boy's back.

    Coaches kept picking him, though - and it wasn't really a great mystery, why.

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    @KiwiMurph said in All Blacks vs England 2:

    If Perofeta had passed inside or if Telea had more pace we'd be lauding DMac's counter attack to set up a brilliant try.

    A step in the right direction for DMac last night

    I was a well known hater for a long time, said he was the classic great Super player with no place in black. But I’ve completely come around. He no longer runs across field all game, he makes way less mistakes than RM / BB ever did and retains their ability to break a game open. Kicking game as good as anyone else’s (better probably), good in the air and a really brave / good defender

    Keen to see more of him and Ratima together and clearly he’d be dynamite behind a pack going forward

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    @nostrildamus He's not the best goalkicker in the world. That's why Jordie took the last shot.

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    @Chris-B said in All Blacks vs England 2:

    @Nepia said in All Blacks vs England 2:

    Also you know the old saying correlation does not equal causation, but good you got your ex- Ta$man boy's back.

    Coaches kept picking him, though - and it wasn't really a great mystery, why.

    There's lots of mystery why, like with every player selected/not selected who is a contentious pick.

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    Any one who is lauding frizzle needs to go back and watch the final. Finau was Kaino like compared to that limpest of efforts, 1 tackle, 1 miss, a couple of runs. Fucking pathetic.

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    @Machpants don't forget the needless yellow card

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    @Nepia He was only contentious on the Fern.

    Where I had several discussions with people trying to tell me that he weighed 108kgs. A slightly small openside flanker in today's world.

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    @Chester-Draws said in All Blacks vs England 2:

    Some people on this forum seem to think that not only should the ABs be the best, that they should be perfect too.

    Well yeah ...

    Realistically Aura was built on the back winning matches by this margin.

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    @Chris-B said in All Blacks vs England 2:

    @nostrildamus He's not the best goalkicker in the world. That's why Jordie took the last shot.

    What last shot at goal did Jordie take?

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    @Machpants Shannon got dudded by a crap yellow card after two minutes - so he probably played pretty cautiously thereafter.

    The Boks didn't score any tries so I'm not worried about his tackle stats. After all, what attacking they did was probably aimed around wher our openside flanker would have been standing.

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