Springboks v Wales (Twickenam)
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@MiketheSnow given the way he was handing out cards, was very surprised that the deliberate knock on wasn’t carded. Especially with Wales in the red zone and hot on attack.
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@sparky why would they kill the sport? Wales scrum look like kids vs men. Maybe you watch the wrong version of rugby.
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Couple of random comments - and excuse me if I have missed some " crucial topics":
- @MiketheSnow really enjoy your passionate commentary commentary during the game (genuinely!)
- Cannot believe that Mapimipi's try was not called back for a forward pass. In no dimension ever was that NOT forward.
- Felt the ref went a bit soft and sympathetic on Wales in the scrums.
- Thought the Boks only strung about 30 minutes of decent play together the whole game (and I'm probably being a bit generous). Disjointed, rusty... but glimpses of promise?
- A couple of new Bok youngsters really showed some potential!
- Lastly, I thought the Welsh youngsters did themselves proud. Showed some real scrap fronting up against a much more experienced side and made life uncomfortable for the Boks with a never-lie-down approach. Who knows, in 4 years time maybe we look back at this group and go - " that's where it all started"...?
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@sparky Tony Brown look like a happy man after SMZ knocked over the penalty from his own half and turned the tide. The Springboks dull game is long gone. They played much more attacking rugby since 2022. The rest of the world need some catch up.
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@sparky said in Springboks v Wales (Twickenam):
Does anyone who's not South African actually enjoy watching the Boks?
They will kill this sport.
I'm always curious to understand a comment like this.
What makes you say it @sparky ?Take this game as an example:
- the Boks scored 5 tries
- 2 of them were from clever, skilled running and passing (Kriel & Mapimpi)
- 2 from power play - driving mauls - penalty try & Bongi
- 1 from individual brilliance in broken play (Edwil v.d. Merwe)
Combine with that with absolute commitment, ferocity in attack and defence...
What was "not enjoyable"?
What part of this approach will "kill this sport"? -
@Billy-Webb There's much more interest in the Uk media when their teams play the All Blacks, France or even Australia.
The Springboks have a small social media presence in comparison to the great brands in sports.
None of their players are household names outside South Africa.
That's despite being reigning double world champions.
No one is saying the Springboks aren't an excellent side. But there is no magic or excitement around them. Dare I say, no aura.
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@sparky which UK countries ?
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I just wish that the prevalence of handing out cards was vastly reduced. That way we'd see fewer supported actively calling for them in an effort to get the ref to be neutral.
Not picking on this fixture but I couldn't understand the reasoning for a bunch of cards/ no cards penalties in this match.
Also I couldn't discern a mature gameplan for the Welsh. Unless Gats is doing 4D coaching...
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@Frank said in Springboks v Wales (Twickenam):
@OomPB said in Springboks v Wales (Twickenam):
They played much more attacking rugby since 2022.
lol - I assume you watched the World Cup
I watched them run 5 tries against the abs last year, too
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@antipodean said in Springboks v Wales (Twickenam):
I just wish that the prevalence of handing out cards was vastly reduced. That way we'd see fewer supported actively calling for them in an effort to get the ref to be neutral.
Not picking on this fixture but I couldn't understand the reasoning for a bunch of cards/ no cards penalties in this match.
Also I couldn't discern a mature gameplan for the Welsh. Unless Gats is doing 4D coaching...
I hate calling it too, as I posted during the match.
It's the inconsistency which boils my piss.
And it evaporated during this match.
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@Frank I watched that quarterfinal against France with both eyes wide open.
SMZ start on saturday
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@MiketheSnow said in Springboks v Wales (Twickenam):
It's the inconsistency which boils my piss.
hate to see your kitchen!
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TASanalytics is up
Here's my take on his vid
Kriel - forward pass. Incorrect call
Faf - forward pass. Correct call
Fassi - accidental but dangerous. Correct call. Arguably could be RC
Fassi - accidental but dangerous. Incorrect call. Should have been YC, arguably RC
Screech - legal hit which rose to neck and chin. Correct call. Penalty.
Mostert - direct contact with head. Incorrect call. YC
Mbonambi - no arms direct contact with head. Incorrect call. YC. Off-field review. RC
Nche - direct contact to head. Incorrect call. YC
Plumtree - seatbelt tackle. Incorrect call. Penalty.Agreed, ref guessing at scrums but guessing both ways. PSDT hand on the floor at nearly every scrum, never gets picked up.
Watkins - rising tackle, head contact. Incorrect call. YC
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Behind the scenes with Gats and the Welsh team -
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@MiketheSnow said in Springboks v Wales (Twickenam):
PSDT hand on the floor at nearly every scrum
Haven't watched the video so maybe missing something, but not sure I follow what the issue is unless he's moved to prop?
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@Bones said in Springboks v Wales (Twickenam):
@MiketheSnow said in Springboks v Wales (Twickenam):
PSDT hand on the floor at nearly every scrum
Haven't watched the video so maybe missing something, but not sure I follow what the issue is unless he's moved to prop?
Perhaps I don’t know the laws
Hands on floor allowed during set up
From engagement, no?
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@MiketheSnow said in Springboks v Wales (Twickenam):
@Bones said in Springboks v Wales (Twickenam):
@MiketheSnow said in Springboks v Wales (Twickenam):
PSDT hand on the floor at nearly every scrum
Haven't watched the video so maybe missing something, but not sure I follow what the issue is unless he's moved to prop?
Perhaps I don’t know the laws
Hands on floor allowed during set up
From engagement, no?
I'd always assumed binding on the opposition is only the front row, never considered flankers weren't allowed their free arm to be on the floor.
