Crusaders vs Hurricanes
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@Chris said in Crusaders vs Hurricanes:
@ruggabee said in Crusaders vs Hurricanes:
@Chris said in Crusaders vs Hurricanes:
Pretty happy with that effort by the Crusaders a few players stepped up almost got home.We can build on that.
More excuses for coach Penney I see. Crusaders had the rub of the green for large majority of that game and still couldn't get it done in the end.
Pull you head in,the same could be said about the Canes but they scrapped home against a team missing 8 of their front line players who would be in the top 23.
As much as I'd love to retort back at this with something snipey about one eyed Cantab's, I do have to agree with the tone.
Crusaders should be much happier, despite the result, than the Canes.
Hurricanes should have won this easily.
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@Chris said in Crusaders vs Hurricanes:
Pretty happy with that effort by the Crusaders a few players stepped up almost got home.We can build on that.
A shit load of players to come back.Why are you defending Penney? He was sacked by the Tahs and left with the worst record in their history. The Crusaders went for a safe in-house appointment, much like Foster after Hansen post-2019, instead of being ambitious, they went for someone who wouldn't 'rock the boat' and duly got what they deserved.
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Count me as pleasantly surprised.
Formations only slightly better but plenty of heart and effort defensively.
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@ruggabee said in Crusaders vs Hurricanes:
@Chris said in Crusaders vs Hurricanes:
Pretty happy with that effort by the Crusaders a few players stepped up almost got home.We can build on that.
A shit load of players to come back.Why are you defending Penney? He was sacked by the Tahs and left with the worst record in their history. The Crusaders went for a safe in-house appointmen, like Foster after Hansen post-2019, instead of being ambitious, they went for someone who wouldn't 'rock the boat' and duly got what they deserved.
I am not defending Penny I never liked that choice,And still think it was a very bad call.
I am saying I saw certain players step up
Reece again,Grace,Bower,Havilli,Fihaki Bell were all much better.
And with a lot of big players to come back we only have to make the top 8 and anything is possible in spite of Penny. -
@MajorRage said in Crusaders vs Hurricanes:
@Chris said in Crusaders vs Hurricanes:
@ruggabee said in Crusaders vs Hurricanes:
@Chris said in Crusaders vs Hurricanes:
Pretty happy with that effort by the Crusaders a few players stepped up almost got home.We can build on that.
More excuses for coach Penney I see. Crusaders had the rub of the green for large majority of that game and still couldn't get it done in the end.
Pull you head in,the same could be said about the Canes but they scrapped home against a team missing 8 of their front line players who would be in the top 23.
As much as I'd love to retort back at this with something snipey about one eyed Cantab's, I do have to agree with the tone.
Crusaders should be much happier, despite the result, than the Canes.
Hurricanes should have won this easily.
Absolutely the Canes were the better team and should have won by more.
You have put in a nutshell what I meant in my post.I think the Crusaders can take more away than the Canes can from this game. -
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@ruggabee said in Crusaders vs Hurricanes:
@Chris Yep, it's almost irrelevant, the structure of the competition means they only need to win about 4 games to make finals. Then they just need to reset from there.
Yep hopefully we can eliminate the Penny influence and the senior players lead the way.
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@MajorRage said in Crusaders vs Hurricanes:
@Chris said in Crusaders vs Hurricanes:
@ruggabee said in Crusaders vs Hurricanes:
@Chris said in Crusaders vs Hurricanes:
Pretty happy with that effort by the Crusaders a few players stepped up almost got home.We can build on that.
More excuses for coach Penney I see. Crusaders had the rub of the green for large majority of that game and still couldn't get it done in the end.
Pull you head in,the same could be said about the Canes but they scrapped home against a team missing 8 of their front line players who would be in the top 23.
As much as I'd love to retort back at this with something snipey about one eyed Cantab's, I do have to agree with the tone.
Crusaders should be much happier, despite the result, than the Canes.
Hurricanes should have won this easily.
Yeah best team in SR versus second to worst, embarrassing it was that close
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But without the laughs
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@Machpants the Crusaders can thank Sevu Reece
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Canes deserved the win. Numia seems to have come of age scrumming wise. Always had the flash Harry stuff but now seems to be doing the core stuff well. Starting Canes front row strong. Brad Shields needs to come back to bring a bit of starch to the loosies,
For the Crusaders a few older heads fronted, Grace, Havili, and Bower esp. in defence. Was Grace's job to nullify Aumua? Certainly seemed that way. Lots to build on. -
@ruggabee said in Crusaders vs Hurricanes:
@Chris said in Crusaders vs Hurricanes:
Pretty happy with that effort by the Crusaders a few players stepped up almost got home.We can build on that.
More excuses for coach Penney I see. Crusaders had the rub of the green for large majority of that game and still couldn't get it done in the end.
Mate I a one eyed Canes man, but even I can feel for Crusaders, and I had feeling last night they are not far off coming right. Especially if they can get a few of their players back. You can see the likes of Havili are getting their rythim back , can still see a few weeks of pain for them, but wouldn't count on too many easy wins against them going forward.
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Some of the crusaders players are sooo average. One of those is strange and I’m picking Hannah to go past him in no time.
I don’t get picking players like Heinz, franks, halfpenny in the squad. It’s not veterans rugby.
Doesn’t look like aumua will ever be a reliable throwing hooker.
Canes weren’t great but they got the win.
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@Billy-Tell I thought Aumua was good for most of the match and then it fell apart a bit in the last 20, O’Reilly isn’t the best throwing hooker either, neither is Bell for the Crusaders.
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@Billy-Tell said in Crusaders vs Hurricanes:
One of those is strange and I’m picking Hannah to go past him in no time.
I agree. Strange is sixty shades of average and if Razor has to pick him its a bad sign about out NZ rugby lock depth.
Apparent Hannah was 90kg and has increased his weight to 114kg
https://www.stuff.co.nz/sport/rugby/super-rugby/301030012/crusaders-lock-jamie-hannah-beefs-up-for-rookie-season -
@Frank I reckon Caleb Delany has been one of the higher performing locks in NZ rugby over the past couples years (both NPC and Super). He’s had a great start to the season but probably needs a little more size on him if he’s to push for the ABs. Currently sitting around 115kg.
He missed the game last night due to an HIA against the Blues but he’s one look I hope Razor has both eyes on. Definitely better than Strange.
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You cant lose that much rugby intelligence and not suffer. Change was going to come at some point, but it is painful.
That being said, thought their defence and organisation was much improved. However a reminder the game has moved on since the Frank's school of tackling.
