6N England v Ireland
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@Victor-Meldrew Well, we are getting closer to the starting XV that we've all been asking for since the start. Seemed obvious then, it's undeniable now.
Just. Need. A. Gameplan.
Not quite sure that I see the logic of starting with Genge and having Marler on the bench. I'd have thought the other way round made more sense - having the heavier hitting (at scrum time) Marler to start and bring on Genge with his running game as bodies tire. Second row looks stronger for having Martin there but Chessum weakens the back row, which again looks unbalanced though that is something of a forced hand with needing an 8Man that does the core duties well and to be fair Earl has really stepped up. Cunningham-South as a starter either at 6 or 8 would have been interesting.
Back line looks better as a unit so maybe we will trust them with a bit of ball this time round?
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@Catogrande said in 6N 2024 England v Ireland:
Back line looks better as a unit so maybe we will trust them with a bit of ball this time round?
Ollie Lawrence says "Hold my beer"....
I'm actually getting myself up for this game. Don't support either side, but think it could be a real belter.
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@Victor-Meldrew said in 6N 2024 England v Ireland:
@Catogrande said in 6N 2024 England v Ireland:
Back line looks better as a unit so maybe we will trust them with a bit of ball this time round?
Ollie Lawrence says "Hold my beer"....
I'm actually getting myself up for this game. Don't support either side, but think it could be a real belter.
Well, based on the Scotland game, someone else needs to hold his beer that’s for sure. In fairness though, he’s better than that game AND he had some pretty average service. Worth a bit more time I think. Nonu was a bit of a tits for hands guy at first, but seemed to turn out ok in the end.
I’m also looking forward to this game but in a strange way really. I think it is possible that we could put in a performance and slightly less possible that we could win but also feel we could get butt fucked over a barrel and then there is the potential fall out from that. Would Borthwick survive another humiliation?
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Keenan returns from injury
15 Hugo Keenan, 14 Calvin Nash, 13 Robbie Henshaw, 12 Bundee Aki, 11 James Lowe, 10 Jack Crowley, 9 Jamison Gibson-Park, 8 Caelan Doris, 7 Josh van der Flier, 6 Peter O’Mahony (c), 5 Tadhg Beirne, 4 Joe McCarthy, 3 Tadhg Furlong, 2 Dan Sheehan, 1 Andrew Porter
Reserves: 16 Ronan Kelleher, 17 Cian Healy, 18 Finlay Bealham, 19 Iain Henderson, 20 Ryan Baird, 21 Jack Conan, 22 Conor Murray, 23 Ciaran Frawley
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I think it good Borthwick is sticking with Lawrence. Doubt if he could be worse than last week and there's clearly something worth sticking to there.
It was always going to take a season or two to drain Comical Eddie's swamp, but Borthwick really needs to show some improvement this game. The buzzards are already circling, you sense.
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@Victor-Meldrew said in 6N England v Ireland:
I think it good Borthwick is sticking with Lawrence. Doubt if he could be worse than last week and there's clearly something worth sticking to there.
It was always going to take a season or two to drain Comical Eddie's swamp, but Borthwick really needs to show some improvement this game. The buzzards are already circling, you sense.
And I'm one of them and I've been circling for a year now. Not that I think Borthers is overly worried about me.
The thing is, in terms of how far we got, the RWC is seen as something of a success but the dross served up beforehand, subsequently and to an extent during RWC suggests otherwise. For me, getting third place at RWC does not excuse the dire stuff dished out.
As a Kiwi does second place at RWC make Foster's tenure a success for you?
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@Catogrande said in 6N England v Ireland:
As a Kiwi does second place at RWC make Foster's tenure a success for you?
Direction-wise, yes, though it was painful travel. For me the frustration was lack of consistency - brilliant one game, dross the next - but you always felt they had a big game due.
I don't get the same vibe with Borthwick's England though.
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That was great from England. Ran straight and draw and pass
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Do England think they are nz?! Never seen such a running English side!
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Itojie is getting thru a power of work so far.
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