Quay Park stadium for Auckland?
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@nzzp said in Quay Park stadium for Auckland?:
Stadia are cool, but the business cases almost never stack up.
To make an economic case for a new stadium all AB home matches would need to move to Auckland. Even then it wouldnât justify the cost
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@Duluth which im not actually against in principle as then the rest of the country could have smaller more economically justifiable stadiums and actually try and fill them...but thats another decision that would have to have been made a long time ago, at least for new stadium like Forsyth Barr of even the cake tin got the go ahead in their current forms
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@dogmeat is that from a proposal? or just an artists impression from an article?...seems extravagant
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@dogmeat said in Quay Park stadium for Auckland?:
Looks like a Pink Floyd concert, so another good reason to build it. Judging by NZ's expertise in building infrastructure, it should be ready by 2038 and only cost $798 trillion.
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@Kiwiwomble It's from the article Winger posted. The tower is an All Blacks hotel. The stadium itself is surrounded by commercial and residential developments.
I added the pigs....
This would need Quay and the Strand to be realigned. Everything as far as mechanics bay to be bowled and the railways lines to be undergrounded. That's just the preparatory work.
They are very nice renders Here's another one with about as much chance of being built
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@dogmeat said in Quay Park stadium for Auckland?:
I added the pigs....
NZ and Auckland should aim high. Eden Park will always be no more than adequate. It's better than the joke cake tin design (but what wouldn't be) but not as good as the Dunedin stadium.
Spending even more on Eden Park is throwing more good money after bad. Time to bite the bullet etc. Have something that stands out and we can all be proud of rather than bland and a little embarrassing. And what's a billion plus. And Auckland deserves this. But stick at 55,000. Thats more than enough
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Quay Park is best. Literally every rail line in the city converges on that spot. The ferries are one stop away at Britomart. Spaghetti junction up the road through Grafton gully. Two dining & entertainment districts nearby (Parnell & the CBD). The students hostels are literally walking distance away and Auckland University is also walking distance. Tamaki Drive is a key arterial that could deliver drop-off and pick-up literally under the stadium along with the rail stations. The indoor stadium is right next door as well so the stadium rail station can service both stadiums. Northern busway is also one stop away in the CBD. There are apartments in the area but theyâll actually go up in value with the stadium situated there. Can even hire out your apartment for the weekend on AirBnB for concerts at the stadium. The view of Rangitoto through the northern stand also reminds us of the Blues crest đ
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@sparky said in Quay Park stadium for Auckland?:
The big issue will be finding the coin to build it.
that's the only issue with all of the stadia.
There is no money.
Business cases don't stack up.Mind you, you don't have a business case for throwing a party - but you do have to spend on bbq meat and beers. But you don't throw the party when you can't pay your mortgage (which is where AC and NZ Govt are)
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@sparky said in Quay Park stadium for Auckland?:
Quay Park. Make it 55,000-60,000.
The big issue will be finding the coin to build it.
50,000 is more than enough.
The three proposals are the Te TĹangaroa bid in Quay Park including a 50,000 stadium, a 70-000 capacity sunken stadium at Bledisloe Wharf and a 55,000-seat facility at Wynyard Point. A revamped Eden Park would include building a roof.
All four options are being measured against a list of standards established by the working group.
âThe criteria are closely aligned to the expression of interest process and all of the bidders have given us a wealth of information, on where youâd put the stadium, how youâd run the stadium and the finances of it are a really key component to that,â Henderson said.
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The key is not just making the development about a stadium thatâs used sporadically. The key is in the proposal for retail and hospitality development (used every day) with a stadium tagged on. The retail and hospitality part of the development pays for the stadium part of the development. Itâs probably why NZR are supporting that Quay Park proposal.
Although Ngati Whatua have reportedly supported Eden Park (according to one of the media sources), Ngati Whatua have long wanted to develop that land east of the CBD and have actually supported past stadium proposals for that site.
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Well, it was done in partnership with a major property Developer.
Itâs a stadium in a housing estate that must have about 500 apartments surrounding it.
Clever way of building their stadium in their spiritual home of Plough Lane. (I drive past it fairly regularly) it was a pretty shoddy part of Wimbledon previously
