Bangladesh tour of NZ
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@Snowy said in Bangladesh tour of NZ:
@Yeahtheboys said in Bangladesh tour of NZ:
What do we gain from playing Nicholls in this series over Finn Allen?
30 something off 20 balls is great in T20 but not so much in ODI I would guess is the thinking on our gain. His strike rate is actually below 100 and av of 27 in ODI (0 hundreds and 5 fifties). He's had a fair go too with 21 innings.
The chances of FA getting 95 at a run a ball yesterday would have been quite slim whereas Nicholls record at home is very good, as has been well documented on here. His failings abroad equally so.
Would have been one of the easier selections I reckon.
You nailed it.
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@Snowy said in Bangladesh tour of NZ:
@Yeahtheboys said in Bangladesh tour of NZ:
What do we gain from playing Nicholls in this series over Finn Allen?
30 something off 20 balls is great in T20 but not so much in ODI I would guess is the thinking on our gain. His strike rate is actually below 100 and av of 27 in ODI (0 hundreds and 5 fifties). He's had a fair go too with 21 innings.
The chances of FA getting 95 at a run a ball yesterday would have been quite slim whereas Nicholls record at home is very good, as has been well documented on here. His failings abroad equally so.
Would have been one of the easier selections I reckon.
You could argue that about anyone not named Don Bradman ( and I’m not sure what is strike rate was )
I remember catching an interview on the wireless with Ross Taylor about the mental side of playing a sport where, let’s be honest, you fail more than you succeed, in his case for every massive score there’s a few shit ones to get the average in the mid 40s.
But yeah, back to Nicholls he’s at home and Bangladesh aren’t really the best travellers. His position is reasonably safe one would think.
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@MN5 said in Bangladesh tour of NZ:
You could argue that about anyone not named Don Bradman ( and I’m not sure what is strike rate was )
Ha. Take whole sentence. It was a comparison with Nicholls chances of doing the same, which were less slim based on historical performance.
Read with the usual financial advice caveat about past performance and guarantee of future performance.
Bradman had a shit ODI strike rate by the way.*
*it could also be infinite but I went with shit.
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@Snowy said in Bangladesh tour of NZ:
@MN5 said in Bangladesh tour of NZ:
You could argue that about anyone not named Don Bradman ( and I’m not sure what is strike rate was )
Ha. Take whole sentence. It was a comparison with Nicholls chances of doing the same, which were less slim based on historical performance.
Read with the usual financial advice caveat about past performance and guarantee of future performance.
Bradman had a shit ODI strike rate by the way.*
*it could also be infinite but I went with shit.
Terrible ODI record and didn’t score in the subcontinent. Give me Tendulkar or Kohli any day
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@MN5 said in Bangladesh tour of NZ:
@Snowy said in Bangladesh tour of NZ:
@MN5 said in Bangladesh tour of NZ:
You could argue that about anyone not named Don Bradman ( and I’m not sure what is strike rate was )
Ha. Take whole sentence. It was a comparison with Nicholls chances of doing the same, which were less slim based on historical performance.
Read with the usual financial advice caveat about past performance and guarantee of future performance.
Bradman had a shit ODI strike rate by the way.*
*it could also be infinite but I went with shit.
Terrible ODI record and didn’t score in the subcontinent. Give me Tendulkar or Kohli any day
At least that's branching out from the typical kiwi butter chicken.
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@Rapido said in Bangladesh tour of NZ:
NZ youth. Thou shall not get a go even in a dead rubber at home.
Says, the 32 year old core group enabled by their token coach.
Apart from Milne, the bowlers have less than 10 caps between them. Maybe they could have played Allen over Nicholls but apart from that seems a good mix of experience and fresh players
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@Rapido said in Bangladesh tour of NZ:
NZ youth. Thou shall not get a go even in a dead rubber at home.
Says, the 32 year old core group enabled by their token coach.
I watched the Stags V Braves yesterday and holy shit the standard was poor. The Stag's openers made Southee look unplayable, and let's face it, Southee's best days are probably behind him. My impressions from yesterday are not inconsistent with my impressions from other games I have watched the last couple of years.
So I guess my point is, it's all very well calling for youth, but I am not sure there is much youth going around that is good enough.
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@Crazy-Horse said in Bangladesh tour of NZ:
@Rapido said in Bangladesh tour of NZ:
NZ youth. Thou shall not get a go even in a dead rubber at home.
Says, the 32 year old core group enabled by their token coach.
I watched the Stags V Braves yesterday and holy shit the standard was poor. The Stag's openers made Southee look unplayable, and let's face it, Southee's best days are probably behind him. My impressions from yesterday are not inconsistent with my impressions from other games I have watched the last couple of years.
So I guess my point is, it's all very well calling for youth, but I am not sure there is much youth going around that is good enough.
I went to basin on Thursday and Robinson (21 yrs) played a stunning innings. I've seen him play the last few seasons and he hadn't made much of an impression until this week, hopefully this is the start of a great career
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@LABCAT said in Bangladesh tour of NZ:
@Rapido said in Bangladesh tour of NZ:
NZ youth. Thou shall not get a go even in a dead rubber at home.
Says, the 32 year old core group enabled by their token coach.
Apart from Milne, the bowlers have less than 10 caps between them. Maybe they could have played Allen over Nicholls but apart from that seems a good mix of experience and fresh players
Yeah. I think Sears is a bit lucky to be there tbh, not been that sharp this season. But at least he's uninjured. Hopefully that is not related.
More the Allen omission. I don't care he got dropped, he deserved it. But if he's in the 13 man squad then give him a go in the dead rubber, see what he's doing. Especially as he's barely ever played in home conditions yet.
It would involve moving another young players down, though (Ravindra), so not at zero cost.
But with similar role players in Nicholls,, Latham, Blundell at 3, 4, 5. Can afford to lose 1 for the riskier Allen.
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@LABCAT said in Bangladesh tour of NZ:
@Crazy-Horse said in Bangladesh tour of NZ:
@Rapido said in Bangladesh tour of NZ:
NZ youth. Thou shall not get a go even in a dead rubber at home.
Says, the 32 year old core group enabled by their token coach.
I watched the Stags V Braves yesterday and holy shit the standard was poor. The Stag's openers made Southee look unplayable, and let's face it, Southee's best days are probably behind him. My impressions from yesterday are not inconsistent with my impressions from other games I have watched the last couple of years.
So I guess my point is, it's all very well calling for youth, but I am not sure there is much youth going around that is good enough.
I went to basin on Thursday and Robinson (21 yrs) played a stunning innings. I've seen him play the last few seasons and he hadn't made much of an impression until this week, hopefully this is the start of a great career
He (Robinson), rather like Katene Clarke at ND, and Finn Allen. Batsmen who have a million shots but not much of an idea how to construct innings . Needs to be their day.
Obviously, they have roles team wanrs them to play in modern cricket, and are not selfish about their t. So, not a 100% criticism. But at this stage they're not 3 format batsmen even at provincial level (if their teams are full strength). Interesting to see if /how they adapt, or if they're interested in that.
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@Gunner said in Bangladesh tour of NZ:
Only following on cricinfo, is this a terrible batting wicket or are we batting terribly?
There's a bit of movement so not easy to bat on.
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In the last match. We were cruising to win and lost a wicket with about 20 or 30 to go. Teams with better leadership, rather than one controlled by a 32 year old cartel jealous of their positions, would have elevated Clarkson then for a potentially easy dig to feel his feet.
Instead, it's 60-5, next match and Clarkson will have his first 'proper' bat under big pressure.