All Blacks 2024
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@junior12 said in All Blacks 2024:
and they already have Tupou
Tupou is finishing 2026, but is already 33, I doubt he plays 1st grade as a winger until then suspect Marky Mark is back up here, but unknown at this stage
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Oh good, Wayne Smith is still living in the past. The article is paywalled, but
Sir Wayne Smith has outlined his vision for New Zealand rugby, that centres on embracing the grassroots game, harnessing coaching innovation and the All Blacks prioritising attacking intent to regain the mantle atop the world.
So 2015 all over again, which has worked so well 2017+ 🙄
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@Machpants upvote only for "jumping the shark"
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How the All Blacks became rugby’s cultural icons in Japan
'The players are very popular here. There is an aura about them ... it generates profile.'
Are Gregor Paul articles just A/B testing? There typically isn't much content.
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@Machpants said in All Blacks 2024:
@gt12 said in All Blacks 2024:
The Breakdown had real analysis.
It’s like a different program with Beaver there.
Actually Interesting in his discussion of tactics and how the back line is almost working.
Oh cool I might watch it then
Be ready to use fast forward, especially when Shields is talking.
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I think we need Chay Fihaki this weekend
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@gt12 said in All Blacks 2024:
@Machpants said in All Blacks 2024:
@gt12 said in All Blacks 2024:
The Breakdown had real analysis.
It’s like a different program with Beaver there.
Actually Interesting in his discussion of tactics and how the back line is almost working.
Oh cool I might watch it then
Be ready to use fast forward, especially when Shields is talking.
I guess this is the good bit?
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From 12:00 where they talk about Beaver's take aways
First on Barrett kicking, then from 14:30 discussing play off 9, then from 17:45 discussing our attack focused on the front man and maybe not getting the balance right with the back runner. -
So Kieran Read thinks that Savea will move to 7 once Cane leaves and Sititi will play in his best position - no.8. No one will disagree about the latter but Ardie will need to change his game a lot to fill that new role, i.e., hit rucks and clean, and tackle someone.
While Savea did pack at 7 when Finau replaced Cane it's what you do away from the scrum that is important in a loose forward trio.
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@Bovidae said in All Blacks 2024:
So Kieran Read thinks that Savea will move to 7 once Cane leaves and Sititi will play in his best position - no.8. No one will disagree about the latter but Ardie will need to change his game a lot to fill that new role, i.e., hit rucks and clean, and tackle someone.
While Savea did pack at 7 when Finau replaced Cane it's what you do away from the scrum that is important in a loose forward trio.
I smell Shannon Frizell.
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So that's the serious part of the year over. 4 losses, 3 on the road against good sides.
In my opinion the things to look for next year
Front row is in an excellent place, very happy.
2nd row? I seriously question Scott Barretts spot in the side. Vaai has gone well past him, in all facets. Patty T comes off his best year as well. What exactly is he doing at such a high level to keep him in the side. If Holland kicks on like everyone expects...
The loose forwards who played basically the whole game will get big wraps. On attack they looked good. If that is our trio next year, then one of them needs to learn to really hit guys. We need a couple of those back 5 forwards to smash guys.Please, can we give BB the "thanks for the great service and 2015, but it's time mate". He was so very ordinary today, and there was an instant shift in speed of thought and play when DMac came on.
We need a fullback.
We need a winger with some wheels.
We need a serious Plan B option to play direct off 9 for a bit. We do the same thing over and over, passes out the back. We have the power players, and that play out the back is more effective when the opposition have to worry about the ball carrier maybe taking 5m is you slide off.
We're bloody close, so many games this year the results could have been reversed (both ways) but I think we are actually the architects of our own destruction.
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Just add to that:
We need a captain with some brains.
Today’s game was there to win and our choice to go for goal kept the French in it. With five to go we kick for goal and still require a) secure the restart, b) make no mistakes to give up points, and c) have to go 80 metres with no errors.
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@gt12 even the greatest captain the ABs have had in the modern era made mistakes when he took on the captaincy, culminating in the 2007 debacle.
I thought SB has been much improved on this tour. He has been earning his place. I’ve also noticed his communication with refs is much improved too. The ABs have improved their discipline immeasurably and are not getting on the wrong side of the refs as much as they were earlier in the year. So now he needs to work on his decision making and reflect on missed opportunities in this game.
I think he’s doing ok. Not great. But trending upwards.
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I think Scott Barrett had a decent NH tour after a lull in the RC. The lineout has been dominant, the scrum has been strong, and the maul defense has been very good. Barrett contributes his cleans as per usual. These are his core roles and he's performed them to a high standard.
What is it that people expect him to do better as a player?
I don't think his captaincy has been too bad. That was the closest we came to beating France since 2018 and until this point we were unbeaten. On balance he's done a pretty good job I would have thought.
