All Blacks 2024
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IMHO if we had won RWC23 it would have been extraordinary, and would have papered over the cracks of the shortcomings of the team in the Foster era. I don't know whether it feels like Razor is on the right track or not especially in terms of personnel, but it is very early in his tenure and if you agree with the first statement, he will need some time to sort everything out. That first 60 in Joburg felt like there was something there to build on. If he can split the SA series in Capetown on the weekend (or at least run them close, playing well), and retain the Bled with some convincing displays against Aussie, I will be cautiously optimistic. But like other ABs coaches before him, he will need to pick his players well. If he hitches his wagon to the wrong ones at the expense of trying others, as Foster did, we will be in for a bumpy ride
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@darylmitchell said in All Blacks 2024:
Maybe this year 2024 will be a repeat of 2004, 1st season of new coaching regime, SA win the RC/Tri Nations, All Blacks eventually pull it together and go through the northern tour dominant and undefeated.
And having developed a squad of unprecedented strength Razor goes on to lose in a RWC quarter final because of a work experience ref?
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@canefan My biggest criticism of Razor's coaching of the ABs at this early stage has been his selection, firstly choosing Rangi as Assistant Coach when they clearly didn't agree on the game plan, then leaving out of his squad completely the form NZ Number 8.
His strengths seem to be his man management skills, his energy and his confidence.
A long way to go, but I'd give him 6 out of 10 so far.
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@antipodean said in All Blacks 2024:
@Canes4life said in All Blacks 2024:
@antipodean said in All Blacks 2024:
@Canes4life said in All Blacks 2024:
The ABs atm and their selections are doing my head in. It's a large case of try the same shit with the same players and expect different results. I agree with @darylmitchell, we need to stop giving players that have had plenty of chances to prove themselves time in the Black jersey. ALB and Ioane aren't cutting it for me in the centres, we need to give Proctor a run there.
I suppose you enjoy the ABs losing then?
Yeah, in my deluded state I keep thinking the reason we're not winning is some unproven bloke called Proctor who can unlock every defence, win every lineout, scrum, ruck and maul.
We aren't trying some of these young guys out. Shoving them on with 15 mins to go is bollocks.
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Young props and locks have done well.
RI has had years to cement the centre spot.
At least give others a chance.
It's beyond me why Ratima hasn't started again -
@sparky said in All Blacks 2024:
@canefan My biggest criticism of Razor's coaching of the ABs at this early stage has been his selection, firstly choosing Rangi as Assistant Coach when they clearly didn't agree on the game plan, then leaving out of his squad completely the form NZ Number 8.
His strengths seem to be his man management skills, his energy and his confidence.
A long way to go, but I'd give him 6 out of 10 so far.
Definitely a vibes guy.
Hard to visualise him giving a spray.
Can picture a lot of "im not angry, just disappointed" type rhetoric.
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@BerniesCorner said in All Blacks 2024:
Young props and locks have done well.
RI has had years to cement the centre spot.
At least give others a chance.
It's beyond me why Ratima hasn't started againWatching the breakdown, they showed Grant Williams influence when he came on and I think Roigard and Ratima can do the same for us. Personally I think Roigard will give the Boks kittens and have no idea why Foster omitted him from the RWC final. This is the same guy who ran 60 meters from the base of a ruck and skinned 5 of their players 3 weeks earlier. He would have definitely kept them guessing with that fresh in their memory.
Sniping in and around the ruck and taking a few steps before passing. It focuses the mind of their backrow.
With TJP they can just drift off him and disregard him as a runner.
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Williams is another case in point.
He's started against SA
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Vaai is becoming an automatic pick
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@ACT-Crusader ok, Ponga was a rugby prodigy and I believe still is one of the most gifted players in either code. He has a very complete game, much more rounded than Benji. But it’s something we may never see not worth the argument.
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@Landers92 fair enough, it looks like Brad thorn was 26 when he switched. 2 years younger.
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@Jet I do like Robertson. I get the feeling his passion for stats and defensive stats at that has him thinking crusader ball will cut it. You need some of those big explosive players who give you a point of difference and some power. I sure hope he gives Sotutu a go on the end of year tour and a more confrontational power forward. Aucklands game plan seemed to provide a good platform for international test matches.
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@Jet said in All Blacks 2024:
Personally I think Roigard will give the Boks kittens and have no idea why Foster omitted him from the RWC final. This is the same guy who ran 60 meters from the base of a ruck and skinned 5 of their players 3 weeks earlier. He would have definitely kept them guessing with that fresh in their memory.
For a bloke who's played 3 Tests, started 1, and scored a solo try in the dying moments against a Bokke team physically knackered from giving the AB's an absolute thumping in essentially a exhibition match, Roigard sure seems to have morphed into an absolute AB legend capable of singe-handedly turning around the AB's fortunes.........
Terrific potential though.
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@Victor-Meldrew said in All Blacks 2024:
@Jet said in All Blacks 2024:
Personally I think Roigard will give the Boks kittens and have no idea why Foster omitted him from the RWC final. This is the same guy who ran 60 meters from the base of a ruck and skinned 5 of their players 3 weeks earlier. He would have definitely kept them guessing with that fresh in their memory.
For a bloke who's played 3 Tests, started 1, and scored a solo try in the dying moments against a Bokke team physically knackered from giving the AB's an absolute thumping in essentially a exhibition match, Roigard sure seems to have morphed into an absolute AB legend capable of singe-handedly turning around the AB's fortunes.........
Terrific potential though.
Ive seen enough already. 4 tries at the world cup, the 60 meter job against SA and was playing super rugby like it was in slow motion until his injury. Massive left boot too.
Generational talent.
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@Jet said in All Blacks 2024:
@Victor-Meldrew said in All Blacks 2024:
@Jet said in All Blacks 2024:
Personally I think Roigard will give the Boks kittens and have no idea why Foster omitted him from the RWC final. This is the same guy who ran 60 meters from the base of a ruck and skinned 5 of their players 3 weeks earlier. He would have definitely kept them guessing with that fresh in their memory.
For a bloke who's played 3 Tests, started 1, and scored a solo try in the dying moments against a Bokke team physically knackered from giving the AB's an absolute thumping in essentially a exhibition match, Roigard sure seems to have morphed into an absolute AB legend capable of singe-handedly turning around the AB's fortunes.........
Terrific potential though.
Ive seen enough already. 4 tries at the world cup, the 60 meter job against SA and was playing super rugby like it was in slow motion until his injury. Massive left boot too.
Generational talent.
It’s weird that @Canes4life hasn’t talked him up more than he has
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@MN5 said in All Blacks 2024:
@Jet said in All Blacks 2024:
@Victor-Meldrew said in All Blacks 2024:
@Jet said in All Blacks 2024:
Personally I think Roigard will give the Boks kittens and have no idea why Foster omitted him from the RWC final. This is the same guy who ran 60 meters from the base of a ruck and skinned 5 of their players 3 weeks earlier. He would have definitely kept them guessing with that fresh in their memory.
For a bloke who's played 3 Tests, started 1, and scored a solo try in the dying moments against a Bokke team physically knackered from giving the AB's an absolute thumping in essentially a exhibition match, Roigard sure seems to have morphed into an absolute AB legend capable of singe-handedly turning around the AB's fortunes.........
Terrific potential though.
Ive seen enough already. 4 tries at the world cup, the 60 meter job against SA and was playing super rugby like it was in slow motion until his injury. Massive left boot too.
Generational talent.
It’s weird that @Canes4life hasn’t talked him up more than he has
I don't need to, his exceptional talent is obvious to see. Can't wait to see him back in the Black / Black and Yellow jerseys.
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@Canes4life said in All Blacks 2024:
@MN5 said in All Blacks 2024:
@Jet said in All Blacks 2024:
@Victor-Meldrew said in All Blacks 2024:
@Jet said in All Blacks 2024:
Personally I think Roigard will give the Boks kittens and have no idea why Foster omitted him from the RWC final. This is the same guy who ran 60 meters from the base of a ruck and skinned 5 of their players 3 weeks earlier. He would have definitely kept them guessing with that fresh in their memory.
For a bloke who's played 3 Tests, started 1, and scored a solo try in the dying moments against a Bokke team physically knackered from giving the AB's an absolute thumping in essentially a exhibition match, Roigard sure seems to have morphed into an absolute AB legend capable of singe-handedly turning around the AB's fortunes.........
Terrific potential though.
Ive seen enough already. 4 tries at the world cup, the 60 meter job against SA and was playing super rugby like it was in slow motion until his injury. Massive left boot too.
Generational talent.
It’s weird that @Canes4life hasn’t talked him up more than he has
I don't need to, his exceptional talent is obvious to see. Can't wait to see him back in the Black / Black and Yellow jerseys.
There he is !!!!!
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2024/2025 AB backline
Roigard - An other - An other- JB - Proctor - An other - Love -
@BerniesCorner said in All Blacks 2024:
2024/2025 AB backline
Roigard - An other - An other- JB - Proctor - An other - LoveWe all know if we want to win World Cups we have to have at least 4 Hurricanes in the backline.
2011 - 9. Weepu 12. Nonu 13. Smith 14. Jane
2015 - 11. Savea 12. Nonu 13. Smith 14. Milner-Skudder
2027 - 9. Roigard 12. Barrett 13. Proctor 15. Love
