All Blacks 2024
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@canefan said in All Blacks 2024 - looking forward:
@sparky said in All Blacks 2024 - looking forward:
@Frank Wasn't Hoskins selected for the AB XV last year but turned it down?
No mention of Sotutu turning anything down
The quoting function makes it appear like I said it when it was sparky
Nothing worse than an apparent misattribution on a Tuesday afternoon surrounded by screaming kids.
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@Kirwan said in All Blacks 2024 - looking forward:
No, he just wasn't selected. Didn't want to talk to the coaches that thought 12 loose forwards were better than him, including some VERY ordinary players.
What the hell went wrong that year?
Seriously................something must have happened or been amiss.
Duluth said there was an apparent personality clash but it was indicated that that was ironed out pretty early on.
There must be a part of his game they didn't like.
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@Kiwiwomble said in All Blacks 2024 - looking forward:
@Duluth said in All Blacks 2024 - looking forward:
A little bit of shit stirring from a paywalled Rattue article. So given the source I'd take it with a grain salt..
Savea is popular with the players but Robertson and him were not on the same page. Scott Barrett was genuinely unsure if he'd take the job (presumably because Ardie is popular?) That's why Whitelock was floated as returning and he would've been captain
you have to wonder in what way were they not on the same page
Razor wanted his loose forwards to hit rucks.
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@antipodean said in All Blacks 2024 - looking forward:
@Kiwiwomble said in All Blacks 2024 - looking forward:
@Duluth said in All Blacks 2024 - looking forward:
A little bit of shit stirring from a paywalled Rattue article. So given the source I'd take it with a grain salt..
Savea is popular with the players but Robertson and him were not on the same page. Scott Barrett was genuinely unsure if he'd take the job (presumably because Ardie is popular?) That's why Whitelock was floated as returning and he would've been captain
you have to wonder in what way were they not on the same page
Razor wanted his loose forwards to hit rucks.
Yeah, he's a bloody good selector of loose forwards is Razor.
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You mean about this ‘not returning a phone call’?
I think that is ridiculous it was even made public.
A 24 yr old young man, had his career aspirations crushed by a punitive decision to not even include him in a AB squad, meaning he won’t make the RWC squad and not even get in the 2nd team.
It was also a decision that had a major financial impact on him.
It would have him thinking if he had a future in NZ or if he needed to look overseas.
But somehow, it’s all his fault because He didn’t return a phone call within 48 hours of having his world completely thrown into turmoil.
It’s complete bullshit
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@Frank said in All Blacks 2024 - looking forward:
@antipodean said in All Blacks 2024 - looking forward:
@Kiwiwomble said in All Blacks 2024 - looking forward:
@Duluth said in All Blacks 2024 - looking forward:
A little bit of shit stirring from a paywalled Rattue article. So given the source I'd take it with a grain salt..
Savea is popular with the players but Robertson and him were not on the same page. Scott Barrett was genuinely unsure if he'd take the job (presumably because Ardie is popular?) That's why Whitelock was floated as returning and he would've been captain
you have to wonder in what way were they not on the same page
Razor wanted his loose forwards to hit rucks.
Yeah, he's a bloody good selector of loose forwards is Razor.
At Super level. Hopefully it translates to tests and we will be in business.
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@KiwiMurph said in All Blacks 2024 - looking forward:
@Frank said in All Blacks 2024 - looking forward:
@antipodean said in All Blacks 2024 - looking forward:
@Kiwiwomble said in All Blacks 2024 - looking forward:
@Duluth said in All Blacks 2024 - looking forward:
A little bit of shit stirring from a paywalled Rattue article. So given the source I'd take it with a grain salt..
Savea is popular with the players but Robertson and him were not on the same page. Scott Barrett was genuinely unsure if he'd take the job (presumably because Ardie is popular?) That's why Whitelock was floated as returning and he would've been captain
you have to wonder in what way were they not on the same page
Razor wanted his loose forwards to hit rucks.
Yeah, he's a bloody good selector of loose forwards is Razor.
At Super level. Hopefully it translates to tests and we will be in business.
Not only selector, he needs to coach his group up and make them better as a team and as individuals
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Yeah looks, I could understand these project/injury selections if it was in the wider squad for the RC/EOYT....but it's for a two test series against a RWC semi finalist with two weeks build up.
I was hoping the era of mealy mouthed bullshit excuses had come to an end, it's disappointing and frustrating to feel that same old same old.
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Did Savea actually want the job. Maybe he told Razor he didn’t want the pressure and so he went with Scooter.
Sotutu showing his true colours with his instagram post. Suck up your non selection and be better. You obviously didn’t listen to the work ons Razor gave you. He challenged you and now you’ve cried over your non selection. You’ve shown him he was right for not selecting you. Mentally weak -
@chchfanatic said in All Blacks 2024 - looking forward:
Did Savea actually want the job. Maybe he told Razor he didn’t want the pressure and so he went with Scooter.
Sotutu showing his true colours with his instagram post. Suck up your non selection and be better. You obviously didn’t listen to the work ons Razor gave you. He challenged you and now you’ve cried over your non selection. You’ve shown him he was right for not selecting you. Mentally weakwhats wrong with his Instagram post?
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@Kiwiwomble I thought "Most hated" was a reference to people who don't like the Blues, not the ABs selectors.
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It’s not like he was his boss was it? He doesn’t work in the same office as him. Doesn’t see him at the blues on a daily basis or have contact with him on a daily basis. He is in charge of a team that you aren’t selected for, essentially saying. We don’t want you in this team.
It’s pretty narcissistic of Ryan to kill someone’s career and then make it all about him because he didn’t get a call back from the person he just killed, and make it public news.
Where’s the compassion for someone and realise that people are different and that he just may need some space before speaking with the person.
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@sparky said in All Blacks 2024 - looking forward:
@Kiwiwomble I thought "Most hated" was a reference to people who don't like the Blues, not the ABs selectors.
is that what people are butt hurt about? thats what i thought it was about, the old "i support two teams, insert your team and anyone playing Auckland"
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@chchfanatic said in All Blacks 2024 - looking forward:
Did Savea actually want the job. Maybe he told Razor he didn’t want the pressure and so he went with Scooter.
Sotutu showing his true colours with his instagram post. Suck up your non selection and be better. You obviously didn’t listen to the work ons Razor gave you. He challenged you and now you’ve cried over your non selection. You’ve shown him he was right for not selecting you. Mentally weakWhat a load of shit. Crafty Comb just wanted to select his Crusaders mate, nothing Sotutu can do about it - certainly can't do any more on the field. That post was restrained compared to what I would posted to the fat fuck and combover muppets.
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@chchfanatic said in All Blacks 2024 - looking forward:
Did Savea actually want the job.
Yes. He's spoken before of the deep honour of captaining the national side. Given Scott Barrett's history with injuries, I's be amazed if we don't see Ardie Savea captaining the ABs in a test at some point this year.
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@chchfanatic said in All Blacks 2024 - looking forward:
Did Savea actually want the job. Maybe he told Razor he didn’t want the pressure and so he went with Scooter.
Sotutu showing his true colours with his instagram post. Suck up your non selection and be better. You obviously didn’t listen to the work ons Razor gave you. He challenged you and now you’ve cried over your non selection. You’ve shown him he was right for not selecting you. Mentally weakI’m interested, what were they?
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@Kirwan you do realise he selected Sititi over Sotutu. So nothing to do with Crusaders bias.
That doesn’t suit your narrative though does it.
