All Blacks 2024
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@Canes4life said in All Blacks 2024 - looking forward:
@mariner4life said in All Blacks 2024 - looking forward:
Everyone knows Ardie Savea is a gifted rugby player. He's incredibly athletic, and very skilled.
But, and there is a huge but, he plays his own game. And to make sure we don't get fucked, we have to pick very specific players next to him. Guys who do fuck all but actually hit people, and actually hit rucks.
What was that big game we won because of Ardie again? He's 100% the nuts not the Sunday
You said the same thing last year and admitted you were wrong when Ardie was on a tear.
Isn’t that the coaches problem to pick guys to balance out Ardie? What’s wrong with a Finau, Papali’i and Ardie back three? Seems nicely balanced to me. Finau just needs to start hitting forwards instead of targeting midgets.
I like him targetting the midgets. Makes them think twice before taking the line on again.
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Yeah half the problem was it was all on Cane with Frizzell only liking to hit his girlfriend hard. -
@African-Monkey said in All Blacks 2024 - looking forward:
@Canes4life said in All Blacks 2024 - looking forward:
@mariner4life said in All Blacks 2024 - looking forward:
Everyone knows Ardie Savea is a gifted rugby player. He's incredibly athletic, and very skilled.
But, and there is a huge but, he plays his own game. And to make sure we don't get fucked, we have to pick very specific players next to him. Guys who do fuck all but actually hit people, and actually hit rucks.
What was that big game we won because of Ardie again? He's 100% the nuts not the Sunday
You said the same thing last year and admitted you were wrong when Ardie was on a tear.
Isn’t that the coaches problem to pick guys to balance out Ardie? What’s wrong with a Finau, Papali’i and Ardie back three? Seems nicely balanced to me. Finau just needs to start hitting forwards instead of targeting midgets.
I like him targetting the midgets. Makes them think twice before taking the line on again.
Yeah because that’s the job of a 6 aye. I think we need to add Kaino to the coaching group to teach our sixes how to dominate.
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@Canes4life said in All Blacks 2024 - looking forward:
@African-Monkey said in All Blacks 2024 - looking forward:
@Nevorian said in All Blacks 2024 - looking forward:
Biggest question no-one seems to have asked yet - Who is leading the Haka?
Codie Taylor?
George Bell.
Scott Barrett leading it will be a sight.
I vote Finlay Christie.
Blackadder
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@Canes4life
Not convinced Finau is anywhere near as good.Great highlights reel player - lol
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@Canes4life said in All Blacks 2024 - looking forward:
@antipodean said in All Blacks 2024 - looking forward:
@Frank said in All Blacks 2024 - looking forward:
@antipodean
Ardie is a total energizer bunny workhorse who stood out even when we played shit.Sure - all that energy saved from not putting a hard shoulder on, leaning on rucks catching his breath.
Someone is butt hurt their golden boy didn’t make the ABs. Jog on.
Not my golden boy.
You know the criticisms are true because your only response is to go herp derp WR PoTY. Not the selection of dominant tackles preventing a team making metres. Not hitting rucks slowing down their ball.
You even admit we need to pick players to do the work he isn't. That's telling.
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@Canes4life Yeah, it kind of is. Certainly a big part of being an enforcer amongst other things, unless of course you like having 10s constantly attack the line at will?
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@mariner4life said in All Blacks 2024 - looking forward:
I'm on record over a few years now calling Hoskins Sotutu the best all-round loose forward in the country.
Are we watching the same Sotutu? The guy is good with ball in hand but he'
@Canes4life said in All Blacks 2024 - looking forward:
@mariner4life said in All Blacks 2024 - looking forward:
Perofeta is interesting. I can't see why. Someone mentioned above he's been good the last couple of weeks, but then Leon said it was picked before the finals so...
I don't see our fullbacks as being a spot the opposition will worry about too much
He wasn’t good in the final, in fact he was the most ineffective Blues back on Saturday. Lam, Ioane and Plummer were the standouts. I’d be happier if they picked Plummer as a 10 and Beauden as a fullback. But Perofeta over Love is just baffling.
Leon McDonald tortured us with his shithouse Blues selections for 4 years & now we are forced to endure another 4...
Haven't we suffered enough....@Canes4life?
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@Dan54 said in All Blacks 2024 - looking forward:
@nostrildamus said in All Blacks 2024 - looking forward:
I don't mind the Sititi selection, I won't get to see it but a Finau Savea (at 7) and Sititi combo would have been interesting. Then again start Sotutu at 8 then Sititi off the bench, grab some popcorn and listen to the international commentators try to get across that..
Ardie is our 8. He's world rugby player ,playing at 8, why would you change him?
I'm not. It's just the only way I could shoehorn in these 3 players. Oh and I'm not saying they should be the AB combo either, just that I wanted to see them in this combo out of interest.
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@antipodean said in All Blacks 2024 - looking forward:
@Canes4life said in All Blacks 2024 - looking forward:
@antipodean said in All Blacks 2024 - looking forward:
@Frank said in All Blacks 2024 - looking forward:
@antipodean
Ardie is a total energizer bunny workhorse who stood out even when we played shit.Sure - all that energy saved from not putting a hard shoulder on, leaning on rucks catching his breath.
Someone is butt hurt their golden boy didn’t make the ABs. Jog on.
Not my golden boy.
You know the criticisms are true because your only response is to go herp derp WR PoTY. Not the selection of dominant tackles preventing a team making metres. Not hitting rucks slowing down their ball.
You even admit we need to pick players to do the work he isn't. That's telling.
Yes he is. You’re taking all your frustrations out on Ardie because Sotutu missed out.
Show me the stats that show Ardie didn’t make dominant tackles etc. you’re full of shit. Ask Eben Etzebeth what it’s like getting chucked around by Ardie if he doesn’t do the hard work like you say he does.
You’re just a sheep echoing what other people are saying. Ardie is the hardest working player in the ABs apart from maybe Whitelock. Get wrecked.
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Is it Thursday yet?
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@nostrildamus said in All Blacks 2024 - looking forward:
Havili shouldn't even be cover IMO. I don't mind the Bower cover choice but the Havili call shits me. Surely there is more reliable or fresh talent to build up. A J Lam for example.
Couldn’t agree more. Anyone, just anyone. Lam, Higgins, Plummer, Tupaea, Poihipi, fuck I’d even say Dallas McLeod at this point. Havili has peaked and almost the gracious age of 30. Surely cover should be used to get promising talent in and around the environment?! But hey, Havili is well known to be a Razor favorite so it checks out.
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@ruggabee said in All Blacks 2024 - looking forward:
@mariner4life said in All Blacks 2024 - looking forward:
I'm on record over a few years now calling Hoskins Sotutu the best all-round loose forward in the country.
Are we watching the same Sotutu? The guy is good with ball in hand but he'
@Canes4life said in All Blacks 2024 - looking forward:
@mariner4life said in All Blacks 2024 - looking forward:
Perofeta is interesting. I can't see why. Someone mentioned above he's been good the last couple of weeks, but then Leon said it was picked before the finals so...
I don't see our fullbacks as being a spot the opposition will worry about too much
He wasn’t good in the final, in fact he was the most ineffective Blues back on Saturday. Lam, Ioane and Plummer were the standouts. I’d be happier if they picked Plummer as a 10 and Beauden as a fullback. But Perofeta over Love is just baffling.
Leon McDonald tortured us with his shithouse Blues selections for 4 years & now we are forced to endure another 4...
Haven't we suffered enough....@Canes4life?
Hey man, I was on the Sotutu bandwagon aswell. Piss poor the fact he hasn't been selected. Having Blackadder and Jacobsen there fs it all up.
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@Canes4life Ardie's not the problem, but he was part of the problem. Pick Ardie, you need to pick specific players around him. Sam Cane is not htat player - he introduced other issues.
There's a goddamn long bow from 'he unbalances the trio' to 'drop him' - he would be insane coming on at 50. That said, he is a stopgap lineout (at best), so you're going to need to pick 1 or 2 tall timber to go with him. And some people who want to do the ruck hitting as well.
He's top tier, but he drives the loose trio in a particular direction.
