All Blacks 2024
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@gt12 said in All Blacks 2024 - looking forward:
They use him well too - he’s a gainline specialist at 12 and helps with the carry clean game plan really effectively.
His defense has been really impressive to me - that shit isn’t easy.
If he can develop a kicking game, similar to what Nonu developed into the later years in his career, the blues have their long term answer at 12 for sure. As a Landers fan, I’m fucking jealous.
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@Landers92 said in All Blacks 2024 - looking forward:
@gt12 said in All Blacks 2024 - looking forward:
They use him well too - he’s a gainline specialist at 12 and helps with the carry clean game plan really effectively.
His defense has been really impressive to me - that shit isn’t easy.
If he can develop a kicking game, similar to what Nonu developed into the later years in his career, the blues have their long term answer at 12 for sure. As a Landers fan, I’m fucking jealous.
Didn't he make the first open play kick of the game? A really well directed hoof with great distance, down the middle?
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@Landers92 Tony Brown tried really hard to get him in 2021/2022 as well, and seemed gutted that he didn't land him.
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@Bones said in All Blacks 2024 - looking forward:
@Landers92 said in All Blacks 2024 - looking forward:
@gt12 said in All Blacks 2024 - looking forward:
They use him well too - he’s a gainline specialist at 12 and helps with the carry clean game plan really effectively.
His defense has been really impressive to me - that shit isn’t easy.
If he can develop a kicking game, similar to what Nonu developed into the later years in his career, the blues have their long term answer at 12 for sure. As a Landers fan, I’m fucking jealous.
Didn't he make the first open play kick of the game? A really well directed hoof with great distance, down the middle?
Haha come on maaaate. I’ve just praised the guy, no need to knit pick my comment😂 I’m talking a more tactical kicking, short range kicking etc. Not just hoof upfield.
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@Landers92 said in All Blacks 2024 - looking forward:
@Bones said in All Blacks 2024 - looking forward:
@Landers92 said in All Blacks 2024 - looking forward:
@gt12 said in All Blacks 2024 - looking forward:
They use him well too - he’s a gainline specialist at 12 and helps with the carry clean game plan really effectively.
His defense has been really impressive to me - that shit isn’t easy.
If he can develop a kicking game, similar to what Nonu developed into the later years in his career, the blues have their long term answer at 12 for sure. As a Landers fan, I’m fucking jealous.
Didn't he make the first open play kick of the game? A really well directed hoof with great distance, down the middle?
Haha come on maaaate. I’ve just praised the guy, no need to knit pick my comment😂 I’m talking a more tactical kicking, short range kicking etc. Not just hoof upfield.
The fuck? Where was I nitpicking?
I agree wholeheartedly it would be good to see if he's got a kicking game - but that was a bloody good sign it might be there (and just not required for the blues).
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Lam nearly scored a great try in the semi final by grubbering a ball on the ground towards the goal line
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@Bones said in All Blacks 2024 - looking forward:
@Landers92 said in All Blacks 2024 - looking forward:
@Bones said in All Blacks 2024 - looking forward:
@Landers92 said in All Blacks 2024 - looking forward:
@gt12 said in All Blacks 2024 - looking forward:
They use him well too - he’s a gainline specialist at 12 and helps with the carry clean game plan really effectively.
His defense has been really impressive to me - that shit isn’t easy.
If he can develop a kicking game, similar to what Nonu developed into the later years in his career, the blues have their long term answer at 12 for sure. As a Landers fan, I’m fucking jealous.
Didn't he make the first open play kick of the game? A really well directed hoof with great distance, down the middle?
Haha come on maaaate. I’ve just praised the guy, no need to knit pick my comment😂 I’m talking a more tactical kicking, short range kicking etc. Not just hoof upfield.
The fuck? Where was I nitpicking?
I agree wholeheartedly it would be good to see if he's got a kicking game - but that was a bloody good sign it might be there (and just not required for the blues).
Ah all good. Taken the comment the wrong way. Yeah agree, I was more meaning that tactical and short range stuff similar to your Nonus of the world.
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@Daffy-Jaffy said in All Blacks 2024 - looking forward:
He's going to pick his best side. Based on his glittering SR record he was a consensus pick on here. Now that shit is becoming real I hope we agree with most of his selections and I hope he is successful
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@DaGrubster said in All Blacks 2024 - looking forward:
Picking a non white as opposed to picking the right person for the job , regardless of colour etc
Diversity picks can be good or bad
Bad is what we often or sometimes have today. Where a person is appointed in preference to someone who is much better based on ability just because they tick the right boxes.
Good is when someone is appointed who is equal to another based on ability but they are chosen because they add to the mix and is appropriate. As Savea as captain would be
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So, last year the ABs had a rather bad run with cards. Red against SA, two Yellows against France, then Red again against SA. What's the plan to fix this?
(Of course, Kolisi hit Savea head to head, and maybe in the air from a lineout take - Barnes is an absolute fuckwit.)
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I am happy with either choice.
There was an article on Savea as captain by Gregor Paul in the herald.
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@canefan said in All Blacks 2024 - looking forward:
@Daffy-Jaffy said in All Blacks 2024 - looking forward:
He's going to pick his best side. Based on his glittering SR record he was a consensus pick on here. Now that shit is becoming real I hope we agree with most of his selections and I hope he is successful
Well at least there is some rationale about why he is the AB coach now.
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If you watch the documentary about the last world cup, the footage makes clear that Rieko Ioane's distribution and running lines were both sublime. Best centre in the world by a mile.
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@Daffy-Jaffy I thought that was weaker than Part 1.
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Victor Meldrewreplied to BerniesCorner on 23 Jun 2024, 17:12 last edited by Victor Meldrew 23 Jun 2024, 17:12
@BerniesCorner said in All Blacks 2024 - looking forward:
@canefan said in All Blacks 2024 - looking forward:
@Daffy-Jaffy said in All Blacks 2024 - looking forward:
He's going to pick his best side. Based on his glittering SR record he was a consensus pick on here. Now that shit is becoming real I hope we agree with most of his selections and I hope he is successful
Well at least there is some rationale about why he is the AB coach now.
Not some bollocks from NZR which has been the status quo for far too long.If winning 2 RWC's out of 4 and losing one by only 1 point with 14 men is "status quo bollocks", it's been pretty damn successful status quo bollocks.
NZR's rationale now is to try something completely new - a bloke who's been successful with one Canterbury-based side and with zero Test experience. It's a bold move for sure, one we hope will pay off.
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@Tim said in All Blacks 2024 - looking forward:
If you watch the documentary about the last world cup, the footage makes clear that Rieko Ioane's distribution and running lines were both sublime. Best centre in the world by a mile.
He's getting there and has to be first of the AB team sheet, but I'd rate Am (when fit) and Fickou above him.
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Richard Knowler doesn't seem to know exactly who will be in the AB squad.
https://www.stuff.co.nz/sport/350320280/all-blacks-all-you-need-know-ahead-squad-naming-day
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Liam Napier prediction for the Herald:
Predicted All Blacks squad:
Props: Tyrel Lomax, Ethan de Groot, Ofa Tu’ungafasi, Fletcher Newell, Tamaiti Williams, George BowerHookers: Codie Taylor, Asafo Aumua, Ricky Riccitelli (uncapped)
Locks: Scott Barrett, Tupou Vaa’i, Patrick Tuipulotu, Sam Darry (uncapped)
Loose forwards: Ardie Savea, Dalton Papali’i, Hoskins Sotutu, Luke Jacobson, Ethan Blackadder/Samipeni Finau
Halfback: T.J. Perenara, Cortez Ratima (uncapped), Finlay Christie
First five-eighths: Damian McKenzie, Beauden Barrett
Midfielders: Jordie Barrett, Anton Lienert-Brown, Rieko Ioane, Billy Proctor (uncapped)
Outside backs: Ruben Love (uncapped), Caleb Clarke, Emoni Narawa, Sevu Reece, Mark Tele’a
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Not picking a lot of six options.
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@Victor-Meldrew said in All Blacks 2024 - looking forward:
a bloke who's been successful with one Canterbury-based side
Isn't it three?
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Richard Knowler has named what he thinks the squad will be.
Love, Telea, Reece, Clarke, Narawa
Reiko Ioane, ALB, J Barrett
DMac, Beauden Barrett, Plummer
Ratima, Christie, TJP
Ardie Savea, Papali'i, Lakai, Finau, Sotutu, Jacobson
Barrett, Tuipolutu, Vaa'i, Darry
Lomax, Newell, Ofa T, De Groot, Williams
Taylor, Aumua, Riccitelli
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Calling a 23:
1 de Groot
2 Taylor
3 Lomax
4 Tuipulotu
5 Darry
6 Ioane
7 Papalii
8 Savea
9 Christie
10 Plummer
11 Clarke
12 J Barrett
13 R Ioane
14 Telea
15 B BarrettAnd a pagen ritual before irrival
A brother hood of the upper middle class, burned at the steak. -
who is next into the warkworth forest. To be initiated
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This team would destroy:
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1 de Groot
2 Taylor
3 Lomax
4 Tuipulotu
5 Barret
6 Ioane
7 Papalii
8 Savea
9 Christie
10 Plummer
11 Clarke
12 J Barrett
13 R Ioane
14 Telea
15 B BarrettPlus the rest of the 23:
16 Riccitelli
17 Tu'ungufasi
18 Renata
19 Darry
20 Sotutu
21 Renata
22 Lam
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@Daffy-Jaffy said in All Blacks 2024 - looking forward:
I watched this last night , my smart arse aussie wife who knows nothing about rugby was hovering in the background and chips in with ,
its cute the way he says Wobbie Deans
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@Tim said in All Blacks 2024 - looking forward:
who is next into the warkworth forest. To be initiated
Summer solstice has passed, so the Cornish piskies are available...
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Just pm’md you with the details of a divorce lawyer in Melbourne
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Thinking you're going to post something from Dali next.
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Liam Napier's squad is pretty much who I'd pick - except I'd only pick three of the wings and I'd pick Plummer as a third first five.
And I wouldn't have a bracket in the loose forwards.
On The Breakdown last night Goldie said they'd heard that there will be four young guys added to the 32 to train with the team.
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Jeez I just had a flash back to a surplus of wingers at the WC 2023
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The four additional young guys are probably the most interesting aspect, even if they don't get on the paddock.
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@Victor-Meldrew
Victor I wouldn't say appointing a new coach with a truckload of SR titles bold. I would call it sensible.
The big turnaround occurred when Jason Ryan arrived. Prior to that for about 3 years it was all Frank Spencer. -
@SouthernMann said in All Blacks 2024 - looking forward:
The four additional young guys are probably the most interesting aspect, even if they don't get on the paddock.
If Liam Napier's squad is pretty much right then I could see the four being something like Lakai, Sititi, one of the young halfbacks, one of the young hookers.
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@Chris-B said in All Blacks 2024 - looking forward:
@SouthernMann said in All Blacks 2024 - looking forward:
The four additional young guys are probably the most interesting aspect, even if they don't get on the paddock.
If Liam Napier's squad is pretty much right then I could see the four being something like Lakai, Sititi, one of the young halfbacks, one of the young hookers.
Or Ruben Love if they see Barrett as the fullback. Leon is picking the outsides so I can see that happening.
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