All Blacks 2024
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@Mr-Fish said in All Blacks 2024 - looking forward:
I'd say the hype around Sititi is even worse at the moment. He's had one great game against the Hurricanes and one great game against Moana Pasifika. Otherwise, he's failed to replicate that similar form in the games in between.
I take it you missed the quarter final where Sititi was also excellent?
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I'm liking this new excuse pre-prepared for Razor: World Rugby is now more competitive.
What else can this thread conjure?
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@Landers92 said in All Blacks 2024 - looking forward:
A few names below of Hurricanes boys who have have had calls to attend the 3 day camp.
Billy Proctor, Ruben Love, Peter Lakai, Asafo Aumua, Brayden Iose, Brett Cameron, TJ Perenara and Jordy Barrett. Quite possible there’s more but that’s the only oil I have for now.
Starting losing your minds over Brett Cameron in 3,2,1…… go!
Someone has to hold a bag at some point.
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@antipodean said in All Blacks 2024 - looking forward:
I'm liking this new excuse pre-prepared for Razor: World Rugby is now more competitive.
What else can this thread conjure?
Poor old Foster on the other hand lost to a bunch of chumps.
Rugby is so unfair
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@ACT-Crusader said in All Blacks 2024 - looking forward:
@Chris said in All Blacks 2024 - looking forward:
@Landers92 said in All Blacks 2024 - looking forward:
A few names below of Hurricanes boys who have have had calls to attend the 3 day camp.
Billy Proctor, Ruben Love, Peter Lakai, Asafo Aumua, Brayden Iose, Brett Cameron, TJ Perenara and Jordy Barrett. Quite possible there’s more but that’s the only oil I have for now.
Starting losing your minds over Brett Cameron in 3,2,1…… go!
9 crusaders also attending that camp I believe it includes extended squad members who may not be in the 32 come Next Monday.
23 into 9 doesn’t really add up, so not sure if our sauces are aligned
It includes extended squad members who will not be in the 32 released on Monday.So numbers mean nothing .
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@KiwiMurph said in All Blacks 2024 - looking forward:
@Mr-Fish said in All Blacks 2024 - looking forward:
I'd say the hype around Sititi is even worse at the moment. He's had one great game against the Hurricanes and one great game against Moana Pasifika. Otherwise, he's failed to replicate that similar form in the games in between.
I take it you missed the quarter final where Sititi was also excellent?
My point was really more about Sititi struggling against the stronger teams until he stood up against the Hurricanes in the semi-final.
I know the Reds are the Chiefs' kryptonite but don't think that's a sign he's necessarily ready to take on England, South Africa, Ireland etc. Again, it's entirely possible he does step up to the plate if he gets the call - but he's no more a proven Test No 8 now than Sotutu was a few years ago before he'd played for the All Blacks. The No 8 depth hasn't changed until one of these players with high potential proves they're capable at international level - we've not struggled for great Super Rugby 8s in recent years, just think of Cullen Grace, Luke Jacobson, Pita Gus Sowakula etc etc.
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@Mr-Fish said in All Blacks 2024 - looking forward:
but he's no more a proven Test No 8 now than Sotutu was a few years ago before he'd played for the All Blacks. The No 8 depth hasn't changed until one of these players with high potential proves they're capable at international level
Of course but I think the excitement comes more from his ceiling and how far he's come in a short period of time. He seems to be a fast learner. His games the last 2 weeks are much improved from earlier in the season. He's come a hell of a long way in his debut season. It will be fascinating to see how he and Sotutu match up on Saturday. That will be as close to international footy as NZ players can get.
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@mariner4life said in All Blacks 2024 - looking forward:
personally all i want is for us to go to Ireland and
I don't know. Watching the RWC live on tv, I heard the lamentation of Irish men and I am not convinced it would be any less painful hearing the lamentation of their women.
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There is suddenly doubt about Ireland and they look like there current team is on the downward slope. (Based on the way the 6 nations finished and Leinster’s performance this year)
They will have an interim coach in the autumn so it seems they won’t be a strong as we have seen recently
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@antipodean said in All Blacks 2024 - looking forward:
What else can this thread conjure?
Robertson isn't fat?
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@antipodean said in All Blacks 2024 - looking forward:
I'm liking this new excuse pre-prepared for Razor: World Rugby is now more competitive.
What else can this thread conjure?
I’m almost hoping the ABs finish the test season with a losing record just to see some you guys go crazy. Meanwhile Razor will be laughing saying, three more years 😉
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@nzzp said in All Blacks 2024 - looking forward:
2020 Foster record 3-1-2, losses to AUS ARG
2021 12-3, losing to SAR FRA IREWe thought 21 was a disaster and it was. That's got to be the bar
We only had four difficult games in 2021 and we lost three of them. That's the real bar. Should assume we'll win against Australia, Argentina etc - it's the games against France, Ireland, South Africa and to a lesser extent England that will test the All Blacks' mettle (though NZ do have home advantage for the England games).
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@Mr-Fish said in All Blacks 2024 - looking forward:
@nzzp said in All Blacks 2024 - looking forward:
@Mr-Fish you know we went 2-1-1 against Australia in 2020 right? Hardly easy beats
2020 was a bit of an anomaly due to Covid. Just an all-round messed up season.
That didn't stop the coach being criticised for an under-developed squad though.
I think 3 losses - even against "tough teams" - will start the questioning. Hope it's met full on by NZR, though.
