All Blacks 2024
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@Kiwiwomble said in All Blacks 2024 - looking forward:
id assumed they'd do both, go to the games and then watch game tape for the more in depth review
You'd think so considering it's their job.
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lol fuck you guys cannot be serious. It's not 1995 and Earl Kirton standing behind the poles in a scarf writing shit in a notebook.
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@Canes4life said in All Blacks 2024 - looking forward:
@Duluth said in All Blacks 2024 - looking forward:
My uncle overheard a convo Razor was having at a local Sumner cafe yesterday when he was ordering his coffee and he was talking about the Canes 7, 8 and 15 which we can all assume is Lakai, Iose and Love. My assumption is that he will be watching those guys with great intent on Saturday.
I was down in Chch for work a month ago and got to meet Razor in person. What a guy he is. We went for a walk one morning and he came flying by on his bike, gave my uncle a high five almost taking his arm off and had a quick chat, which he almost does with my uncle nearly every morning. My uncle isn't someone that bothers Razor too much but he gave me that feedback yesterday being a Canes supporter. Interesting indeed. He probably has three Chiefs players he'll be looking at closely on Saturday aswell.
So one minute he’s stalking him in a cafe the next they’re high fiving on bikes ?
Something isn’t adding up here
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@MN5 the bike interaction was when I was down there a month ago. Totally separate occurrences. My uncle has a yarn to Razor most mornings at the local cafe down there, or at least when he's around. After meeting Razor, you would never guess he's the AB coach, such a rogue character and is super friendly with most of the frequent locals.
He was meeting people yesterday (two blokes) my uncle didn't recognise and he was in ear shot when he went to purchase his coffee. Could hear them talking about the Canes and the three guys I mentioned but then obv had to shoot off.
Not sure why Razor chose that cafe to have a meeting though because it's boutique and you almost have to shout to talk to the person next to you.
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@mariner4life said in All Blacks 2024 - looking forward:
lol fuck you guys cannot be serious. It's not 1995 and Earl Kirton standing behind the poles in a scarf writing shit in a notebook.
AB coaches go to Six Nations games live.
They can certainly make a Friday night game in Auckland and a Saturday afternoon game in Wellington.
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@KiwiMurph said in All Blacks 2024 - looking forward:
@mariner4life said in All Blacks 2024 - looking forward:
lol fuck you guys cannot be serious. It's not 1995 and Earl Kirton standing behind the poles in a scarf writing shit in a notebook.
AB coaches go to Six Nations games live.
They can certainly make a Friday night game in Auckland and a Saturday afternoon game in Wellington.
no shit?
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@mariner4life said in All Blacks 2024 - looking forward:
@KiwiMurph said in All Blacks 2024 - looking forward:
@mariner4life said in All Blacks 2024 - looking forward:
lol fuck you guys cannot be serious. It's not 1995 and Earl Kirton standing behind the poles in a scarf writing shit in a notebook.
AB coaches go to Six Nations games live.
They can certainly make a Friday night game in Auckland and a Saturday afternoon game in Wellington.
no shit?
So are you for or against them attending?
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@Canes4life said in All Blacks 2024 - looking forward:
@MN5 the bike interaction was when I was down there a month ago. Totally separate occurrences. My uncle has a yarn to Razor most mornings at the local cafe down there, or at least when he's around. After meeting Razor, you would never guess he's the AB coach, such a rogue character and is super friendly with most of the frequent locals.
He was meeting people yesterday (two blokes) my uncle didn't recognise and he was in ear shot when he went to purchase his coffee. Could hear them talking about the Canes and the three guys I mentioned but then obv had to shoot off.
Not sure why Razor chose that cafe to have a meeting though because it's boutique and you almost have to shout to talk to the person next to you.
Razor sure is a man of the people. I swear every second FB update I see is him in a selfie with someone I know.
( slight exaggeration, but still…..)
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@KiwiMurph said in All Blacks 2024 - looking forward:
@mariner4life said in All Blacks 2024 - looking forward:
@KiwiMurph said in All Blacks 2024 - looking forward:
@mariner4life said in All Blacks 2024 - looking forward:
lol fuck you guys cannot be serious. It's not 1995 and Earl Kirton standing behind the poles in a scarf writing shit in a notebook.
AB coaches go to Six Nations games live.
They can certainly make a Friday night game in Auckland and a Saturday afternoon game in Wellington.
no shit?
So are you for or against them attending?
why would i be against? I am really confused here.
This is a sophisticated high performance environment. The idea that the choices are "go to go game" or "watch on TV" is idiotic.
They would have detailed film breakdown of every player on their radar. Decisions would not be made on an in-person watch on Friday or Saturday. Those days are long gone.
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AB coaches going to games is so they can be seen to be doing their job and thus keeping the punters happy. I can't imagine there would be much they could glean from watching games live that they wouldn't get from the technology available to them.
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the process for getting picked for the ABs is exactly the same as the process for getting picked for Buller...
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@mariner4life nah, not having a full set of teeth, nor slept with a family member isn't a requirement these days
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@bayimports said in All Blacks 2024 - looking forward:
@mariner4life nah, not having a full set of teeth, nor slept with a family member isn't a requirement these days
Buller and Waikato had the same selectors?
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@mariner4life yep, I am sure they get more of what they need to see from rewatching games than live.
Especially when the footage is coded for them to see what they want and track who or what they want to see.
Going to games is not a must, sure you will see things differently, but without a doubt, the bulk of decision making analysis will be done from footage, not from what they saw live.
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@mariner4life said in All Blacks 2024 - looking forward:
@KiwiMurph said in All Blacks 2024 - looking forward:
@mariner4life said in All Blacks 2024 - looking forward:
@KiwiMurph said in All Blacks 2024 - looking forward:
@mariner4life said in All Blacks 2024 - looking forward:
lol fuck you guys cannot be serious. It's not 1995 and Earl Kirton standing behind the poles in a scarf writing shit in a notebook.
AB coaches go to Six Nations games live.
They can certainly make a Friday night game in Auckland and a Saturday afternoon game in Wellington.
no shit?
So are you for or against them attending?
why would i be against? I am really confused here.
This is a sophisticated high performance environment. The idea that the choices are "go to go game" or "watch on TV" is idiotic.
They would have detailed film breakdown of every player on their radar. Decisions would not be made on an in-person watch on Friday or Saturday. Those days are long gone.
I guess I was confused too. i wasn't sure what point you were making but that clears it up
It's interesting that in pro sport despite all the technology there is still value in seeing someone live in person.
You hear about it a lot in US pro sports scouting around seeing a college QB prospect throw live etc.
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As much as I love data, you can't be sure that a limited number of cameras are going to show the decision making off the ball and how that can shape the opposition's decisions. Even with GPS tracking there needs to be context behind the movement.
Watching live can help cement judgements made on data - especially those players who make the effort to communicate to their teammates.
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@KiwiMurph said in All Blacks 2024 - looking forward:
You hear about it a lot in US pro sports scouting around seeing a college QB prospect throw live etc.
the eye test is still awesome even in the age of analytics.
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@MN5 said in All Blacks 2024 - looking forward:
@Canes4life said in All Blacks 2024 - looking forward:
@MN5 the bike interaction was when I was down there a month ago. Totally separate occurrences. My uncle has a yarn to Razor most mornings at the local cafe down there, or at least when he's around. After meeting Razor, you would never guess he's the AB coach, such a rogue character and is super friendly with most of the frequent locals.
He was meeting people yesterday (two blokes) my uncle didn't recognise and he was in ear shot when he went to purchase his coffee. Could hear them talking about the Canes and the three guys I mentioned but then obv had to shoot off.
Not sure why Razor chose that cafe to have a meeting though because it's boutique and you almost have to shout to talk to the person next to you.
Razor sure is a man of the people. I swear every second FB update I see is him in a selfie with someone I know.
( slight exaggeration, but still…..)
Yeah he’s a great character. Hard to dislike the guy tbh.
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@Canes4life said in All Blacks 2024 - looking forward:
He was meeting people yesterday (two blokes) my uncle didn't recognise and he was in ear shot when he went to purchase his coffee.
With the size of the coaching staff these days, I wouldn't be surprised if Robertson didn't recognise them either.
