All Blacks 2024
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@Canes4life said in All Blacks 2024 - looking forward:
The latest Aotearoa Rugby pod they discuss how influential Billy Proctor is for the Canes. He's almost a certainty for the ABs this year on form coupled with the fact he's formed a formidable combination with Jordie. Reiko obviously number 1 due to experience but Billy is pushing hard. Anton is obviously there or there abouts as well.
Parsons being a hooker also thinks Asafo will be in the ABs for the next 10 years. Codie as the top dog so will start and he thinks it's currently a fight between Asafo and Samisoni for that 16 jersey. Riccitelli and Bell for ABs XV.
Fuck me drunk. Parsons thinks Rayasi should be an All Black. I must be watching a very different Rayasi do stupid shit or be lazy. Admittedly he's got the attributes and when he puts in a good performance, it is a good performance. Problem being they're few and far between.
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@Dan54 said in All Blacks 2024 - looking forward:
@Chris-B said in All Blacks 2024 - looking forward:
@Dan54 said in All Blacks 2024 - looking forward:
Not suggesting Hotham will go near ABs this year or anything. Mind you I still say I be very surprised if Christie isn't in AB squad as a 9.
I'll also be a bit surprised if Christie doesn't make it into this first selection. If I were Razor and Co. I'd be picking pretty much as much continuity as I could from last year and then slowly ease out the guys I'm less enamoured with (and slowly ease in my newbies). They're going to have at least half a dozen spots for rookies, as it is.**
In the forwards, especially, I'm inclined to think Ryan would have pretty much had everyone he wanted last year. In the backs there's probably a bit more scope for the new selectors to be thinking, "why the hell did they pick him"?
Have they ever said exactly who is on the AB selection panel? I presume Razor and Ryan (forwards coach) - which would then logically suggest Holland (backs coach)?
On Hotham, I think anyone who's starting at halfback for their Super team isn't going to be too far away from the ABs this year. They're going to pick three halfbacks, but then if someone gets an injury....
**I'm a pretty reactionary selector - Razor might be a lot more adventurous!
Razor said in an interview, Ryan was doing tighties, Himself the Loosies, Holland I think midfield , and Rangi back 3. Can't remember exactly, but said he will only make decisions when there no agreement. Was interesting to read him say no real talk with Wayne Smith and think he said they basically had different views.
i hope to god this isn't true. imagine this from a rugby team point of view?
Pot luck dinners are shit
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@Canes4life said in All Blacks 2024 - looking forward:
So on the Breakdown last night Kirwan was pushing for Riccitelli to be selected as one of the hookers. He's the sort of guy that doesn't make many mistakes but I wouldn't have him up there as one of the top three hookers.
I thought he said that the Hookers would be Taylor, Aumua and Taukei'aho. But made the point that Riccitelli is reliable and that Samisoni is the most under threat as his form hasn't reached previous levels
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@mariner4life said in All Blacks 2024 - looking forward:
@Dan54 said in All Blacks 2024 - looking forward:
@Chris-B said in All Blacks 2024 - looking forward:
@Dan54 said in All Blacks 2024 - looking forward:
Not suggesting Hotham will go near ABs this year or anything. Mind you I still say I be very surprised if Christie isn't in AB squad as a 9.
I'll also be a bit surprised if Christie doesn't make it into this first selection. If I were Razor and Co. I'd be picking pretty much as much continuity as I could from last year and then slowly ease out the guys I'm less enamoured with (and slowly ease in my newbies). They're going to have at least half a dozen spots for rookies, as it is.**
In the forwards, especially, I'm inclined to think Ryan would have pretty much had everyone he wanted last year. In the backs there's probably a bit more scope for the new selectors to be thinking, "why the hell did they pick him"?
Have they ever said exactly who is on the AB selection panel? I presume Razor and Ryan (forwards coach) - which would then logically suggest Holland (backs coach)?
On Hotham, I think anyone who's starting at halfback for their Super team isn't going to be too far away from the ABs this year. They're going to pick three halfbacks, but then if someone gets an injury....
**I'm a pretty reactionary selector - Razor might be a lot more adventurous!
Razor said in an interview, Ryan was doing tighties, Himself the Loosies, Holland I think midfield , and Rangi back 3. Can't remember exactly, but said he will only make decisions when there no agreement. Was interesting to read him say no real talk with Wayne Smith and think he said they basically had different views.
i hope to god this isn't true. imagine this from a rugby team point of view?
Pot luck dinners are shit
That's what I thought when I read it (and heard him earlier). I know they all Crusader's people in long run, but by geez I hope they all on same page with evrything. But you would hope (or pray) that they all got same game plan and so see same requirements.
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@nzzp said in All Blacks 2024 - looking forward:
Fun fact time (from a mate)!
Blackadder debuted in 2018 and has played 7 seasons of Super. He's played 42 Super games. There are two seasons where he has played more than 5 matches.Probably man of the match in all 42 though
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@Canes4life said in All Blacks 2024 - looking forward:
So on the Breakdown last night Kirwan was pushing for Riccitelli to be selected as one of the hookers. He's the sort of guy that doesn't make many mistakes but I wouldn't have him up there as one of the top three hookers.
JK looking after the Italian boys
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@george33 said in All Blacks 2024 - looking forward:
I'm putting it out there Dalton will be captain of The all blacks
No chance
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@Canes4life said in All Blacks 2024 - looking forward:
@george33 said in All Blacks 2024 - looking forward:
I'm putting it out there Dalton will be captain of The all blacks
No chance
Very decent chance, been posed plenty before though, not exactly out there.
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@Bones said in All Blacks 2024 - looking forward:
@Canes4life said in All Blacks 2024 - looking forward:
@george33 said in All Blacks 2024 - looking forward:
I'm putting it out there Dalton will be captain of The all blacks
No chance
Very decent chance, been posed plenty before though, not exactly out there.
Over Scott Barrett and Ardie Savea? I highly doubt it with Robertson as coach and hope it doesn’t happen tbh. Dalton isn’t a certainty to start either.
It’s a three horse race between Barrett, Savea and Taylor for me and those are the names that have been thrown around in the media.
Where did Dalton come from? Or is that just Fern speculation?
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@Canes4life two of your horses could pretty easily be surpassed by younger models in the next 3-4 years and the other is a hurricane.
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@canefan said in All Blacks 2024 - looking forward:
@Canes4life said in All Blacks 2024 - looking forward:
So on the Breakdown last night Kirwan was pushing for Riccitelli to be selected as one of the hookers. He's the sort of guy that doesn't make many mistakes but I wouldn't have him up there as one of the top three hookers.
JK looking after the Italian boys
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@Bones said in All Blacks 2024 - looking forward:
@Canes4life two of your horses could pretty easily be surpassed by younger models in the next 3-4 years and the other is a hurricane.
The ‘Hurricane’ is also the best player in the world so you know there’s that.
Dalton could also be taken over by others aswell so that’s a moot point.
Let’s be honest, is Razor really going to pick a Blue as captain? Probably not. Is Dalton really AB captain material? Probably not. Will he select Barrett as his captain? Probably.
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@Tim said in All Blacks 2024 - looking forward:
Savea hasn't impressed as a captain, and doesn't seem very smart. Barrett also seems pretty thick, but has better results as a captain.
Dalton doesn’t seem the sharpest tool either so is it slim pickings? Dalton just seems like another Cane for me. Solid without being dominant in all facets of what an international 7 should be.
If it’s all based on brains then Taylor probably gets the nod.
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@Canes4life said in All Blacks 2024 - looking forward:
@Tim said in All Blacks 2024 - looking forward:
Savea hasn't impressed as a captain, and doesn't seem very smart. Barrett also seems pretty thick, but has better results as a captain.
Dalton doesn’t seem the sharpest tool either so is it slim pickings? Dalton just seems like another Cane for me. Solid without being dominant in all facets of what an international 7 should be.
If it’s all based on brains then Taylor probably gets the nod.
Have you got access to their NCEA results or something ? How is Taylor “smarter” than the others ?
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@MN5 said in All Blacks 2024 - looking forward:
@Canes4life said in All Blacks 2024 - looking forward:
@Tim said in All Blacks 2024 - looking forward:
Savea hasn't impressed as a captain, and doesn't seem very smart. Barrett also seems pretty thick, but has better results as a captain.
Dalton doesn’t seem the sharpest tool either so is it slim pickings? Dalton just seems like another Cane for me. Solid without being dominant in all facets of what an international 7 should be.
If it’s all based on brains then Taylor probably gets the nod.
Have you got access to their NCEA results or something ? How is Taylor “smarter” than the others ?
Taylor seems a little more articulate than the others from what I’ve seen.
The AB captain needs to be the best in their position. Barrett, Taylor and Savea tick that box, Dalton arguably doesn’t so that rules him out right away. I’m only echoing what’s been in the media. Dalton hasn’t been mentioned as a possibility from what I’ve read. Not sure why everyone’s getting so defensive.
Dalton isn’t even the Blues captain.
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@Canes4life said in All Blacks 2024 - looking forward:
If it’s all based on brains then Taylor probably gets the nod.
This is the guy that does dumb shit every week even in super rugby?
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@Bones you could say that about almost every player these days…
Barrett and Taylor are proven winners under Robertson so that will probably sway it in their favour.
I'm not too fussed who's captain tbh, I just want the ABs to get back to being dominant like we were 5-6 years ago.
