All Blacks 2024

[george33]

@sparky love and Proctor not for me thanks

[Chris]

@frugby said in All Blacks 2024 - looking forward:

Prop I think could be an interesting one. Though Tu'ungafasi and Williams can both play tighthead, they pretty much only play loosehead these days. Ryan has tended to pick specialists, which means those two + EDG, Numia and Bower are playing for three spots.

Would leave a gap at tighthead, and with few options to fill it. Ta'avao for a recall? Tosi as a bolter? Dyer?

You can lock in 5 props

Lomax,De groot,Newell,Williams and Ofa

Williams and Ofa will cover TH if needed as they will be 3rd choice to play TH.
Straight battle if they take 6 props Numia v Bower.

[george33]

@Chris I'm going to put Marcel Renata in the mix also.

[Chris]

@george33 said in All Blacks 2024 - looking forward:

@Chris I'm going to put Marcel Renata in the mix also.

If they go for a 3rd specialist TH he is chance.

[Mr Fish]

@sparky said in All Blacks 2024 - looking forward:

Squad based on the Season so far:

Du Groot
Lomax
Ofa T
Newell
Williams
Numia

Aumua
Taylor
Sami T

S. Barrett
Tuipolutu
Vaii
Darry

Finau
Papalii
Lakai
Savea
Iose
Sotutu

Hotham
TJP
Funaki

McKenzie
B. Barrett

ALB
J. Barrett
Proctor
R. Ioane

C.Clarke
Reece
Telea
Love

Blackadder over Iose, Ratima/Christie over Hotham/Funaki and potentially one additional outside back over Sotutu, and I think you've nailed it. The last lock is anyone's guess too.

[Bovidae]

@Machpants said in All Blacks 2024 - looking forward:

Darry? No way

Strange it is then.

[KiwiMurph]

@family-man said in All Blacks 2024 - looking forward:

@Machpants said in All Blacks 2024 - looking forward:

Darry? No way

Why not?

He makes too many soft errors (mentally and physically). I'd rather have Delany or ideally Lord could get himself in a state where he doesn't break every second game he plays.

[Tim]

Saw these stats on another forum:

Loose forwards, most rucks per 80 minutes starting 5 or more games:

No 8
21.76 Hoskins Sotutu
21.12 Christian Lio-Willie
19.47 Wallace Sititi
17.00 Billy Harmon
15.75 Brayden Iose

No 7
29.15 Tom Christie
28.29 Dalton Papali'i
24.40 Luke Jacobson
23.72 Peter Lakai
23.31 Kaylum Boshier

No 6
23.06 Anton Segner
22.91 Oliver Haig
22.61 Akira Ioane
20.96 Simon Parker
19.03 Dom Gardiner

[Stag]

Blackadder & Lio- Willie in the loose forwards for me. Plenty of other locks better than Vaii.

[SouthernMann]

Those numbers for a loosie/lock with Oli Haig look impressive

[pakman]

@frugby said in All Blacks 2024 - looking forward:

Prop I think could be an interesting one. Though Tu'ungafasi and Williams can both play tighthead, they pretty much only play loosehead these days. Ryan has tended to pick specialists, which means those two + EDG, Numia and Bower are playing for three spots.

Would leave a gap at tighthead, and with few options to fill it. Ta'avao for a recall? Tosi as a bolter? Dyer?

Tamaiti looks alright at TH against lower quality LHs but was made mincemeat of by Joe Marler. Stood up well at LH against Bok second string TH. Ofa genuinely good both sides, and ABs need him more as third TH. If they did look further afield, last year they seemed to like Mafileo, and Tosi has performed well for Canes.
At LH EDG first name. On form Numia ought to be second, and also adds another level of dynamism. So for me Bower or Tamaiti. Tried and tested versus higher ceiling.

[Landers92]

@frugby said in All Blacks 2024 - looking forward:

Prop I think could be an interesting one. Though Tu'ungafasi and Williams can both play tighthead, they pretty much only play loosehead these days. Ryan has tended to pick specialists, which means those two + EDG, Numia and Bower are playing for three spots.

Would leave a gap at tighthead, and with few options to fill it. Ta'avao for a recall? Tosi as a bolter? Dyer?

I’m willing to bet money that Bower misses out here, seeing as he’s not a starter and an eye for the future, 32 year old Bower doesn’t make the squad for me. Not when you already have a 32 year old Ofa in there.

For me it’s EDG, Ofa, T.Williams and Numia. Those are our answers at loose head imo.

[Frank]

@Tim Confirms Akira is working hard. With the added bonus of more power.

[Bovidae]

I'm interested to see how the scrum goes this year. BBBR in particular made a huge difference to the power on the TH side. Whitelock usually packed on that side when in combination with Barrett. One of the locks will have a big role to play.

[MN5]

@Bovidae said in All Blacks 2024 - looking forward:

I'm interested to see how the scrum goes this year. BBBR in particular made a huge difference to the power on the TH side. Whitelock usually packed on that side when in combination with Barrett. One of the locks will have a big role to play.

The other one will be relieved he can cruise a bit then

[pakman]

@Bovidae said in All Blacks 2024 - looking forward:

I'm interested to see how the scrum goes this year. BBBR in particular made a huge difference to the power on the TH side. Whitelock usually packed on that side when in combination with Barrett. One of the locks will have a big role to play.

Patty T seems to be a late bloomer on TH side. Quite why he played LH against Chch is beyond me!

[Victor Meldrew]

@Tim said in All Blacks 2024 - looking forward:

19.47 Wallace Sititi

May not make an AB XXIII this year, but a squad bolter if ever there was one.

[Mr Fish]

At this stage, Sititi is just a less experienced, less proven Sotutu.

[Bones]

@Mr-Fish said in All Blacks 2024 - looking forward:

At this stage, Sititi is just a less experienced, less proven Sotutu.

Bit more rugged. In any case, the hunt is now on for an AB worthy Satete at openside.

[sparky]

I like Sititi, but I think he needs more experience before being put in the All Blacks squad. Some more time in the NPC and with the All Blacks XV won't do him any harm. Ardie Savea and Hoskins Sotutu are better options at 8 in the short term.