All Blacks 2024
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@Winger said in All Blacks 2024 - looking forward:
Iose is playing great rugby but might be considered too small for an ideal 8. But he is about the same size as Savea. And can also play 7. But I doubt if he will make it this year. Unless there are injuries.
I like what I've seen of him. I think he could grow into an Ardie type - he doesn't look too small on TV. The only problem for him is NZ is blessed with loose forwards; there's serious competition.
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@booboo said in All Blacks 2024 - looking forward:
@Bones said in All Blacks 2024 - looking forward:
@booboo said in All Blacks 2024 - looking forward:
Is T-cubed an option at 9 again?
What did he do wrong?
On the strength of one game where the opposition provided a training run?
I'm trying to work out what he did wrong 2-3 years ago.
I get Brad Weber overtook him, and I wouldn't have minded him in France in November I front of Christie ...
But I didn't get why T3 fell out of favour.
Bryn Hall was probably the most hard done by between 2018-2022, he actually offered a point of difference compared to the others being a much bigger halfback. Also the Crusaders looked like a different team after his departure (Blues 2022 final) ever since Crusaders have sorely missed his influence.
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@booboo said in All Blacks 2024 - looking forward:
@Bones said in All Blacks 2024 - looking forward:
@booboo dunno if he did anything more wrong than, say, Brett Cameron.
Harsh.
Can't see where he played himself out.
Any conspiracy theories?
From what I remember he only got game time with the Chiefs when Weber was injured. Made the ABs based on that, then never really started ahead of Weber back at the Chiefs the next year.
So maybe not being as good as other halfbacks was his issue? Leading to less game time, which lead to a drop in performance.
Either that or Hansen and Fozzie didn't want to be caught calling him 'Trip' instead of his full name again.
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Only two games to base it on, but I've been impressed by the second string 9's in the last few games. Hopefully Robertson can have a word with Vern Cotter and Clayton McMillan to sound things out.
Unlike, wingers, we don't seem to have an abundance of recognised talent at half-back.
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@Bones said in All Blacks 2024 - looking forward:
@Dan54 Funaki has played more than one game. Has TTT played well in other games?
Yep mate, but never come up in discussion for ABs before as I recall. TTT was obviously an AB but has not exactly set the world on fire the last year or two has he(eithet at Chiefs or Crusaders)? That's what I meant, we probably need to see more top level rugby from them to suggest they near AB material. I certainly be happy if they do show it against good teams.
Whoops just came and added this, I can't talk about being quick of trigger, I was on here and telling people I reckoned I had seen a new AB halfback after seeing Roigard for about 20 minutes in a presesaon game last year!!
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@delicatessen said in All Blacks 2024 - looking forward:
From what I remember he only got game time with the Chiefs when Weber was injured. Made the ABs based on that, then never really started ahead of Weber back at the Chiefs the next year.
Yeah, TTT didn't play much, and when he was given token minutes at the end of games probably tried too hard and wasn't that impressive. Remember that Christie was also a backup to Weber at one stage.
I think that there were some personal issues which affected his game after he made the ABs. Moving back to BOP more recently helped but often he didn't start for them in the NPC either.
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TTT was great for the Chiefs during the 2020 season before Covid hit (was much better than Weber IMO), then he got limited opportunities in Aotearoa.
Don't know if he's not a good trainer or whatever but he's one of those guys that, as mentioned, has only really been given small chances and has probably tried to overplay his hand.
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I feel like it was mentioned on here years ago that he turned up unfit and a bit out of shape around the year after his ABs debut and that his attitude needed adjusting.
Maybe it was one of the BOP posters who said it?
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Christy Doran: Confirmed fanny
"Shannon Frizell was one of the great movers in New Zealand rugby last year, as he won the race to wear the No.6 jersey at last year’s World Cup.
But with Frizell in Japan this season, it’s unclear who Scott Robertson will turn to in 2024.
Capped loose-forward Samipeni Finau hits like a tonne of bricks.
In the post-Jerome Kaino era, there’s not been an All Blacks flanker who quite hits like Finau.
It’s one aspect Robertson will have taken notice of.
Whether Super Rugby officials are cottoning on to his propensity to target opposition playmakers remains to be seen. But they should.
After whacking Noah Lolesio and Tom Lyangh late, Finau followed it up by smoking William Havili after the playmaker had released the ball.
The incident came in the 38th minute.
Referee Ben O’Keeffe, who also thought the shot on Lynagh was legal, said at the time “it’s fine”.
Moments later, Havili asked O’Keeffe about the incident and wasn’t happy.
“I didn’t think it was late. I watched it,” O’Keeffe said. “My TMO just checked and confirmed (it was OK).”
That’s Finau’s third strike.
It’s more than fractionally late, it’s a targeted measure from the blindside flanker to go after the opposition playmaker just as they release the ball"
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@mariner4life pearl clutching much?
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@mariner4life he hit 2 Kiwi ones as well didnt he? I know he injured Reihana in a legal hit.
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@taniwharugby said in All Blacks 2024 - looking forward:
@mariner4life he hit 2 Kiwi ones as well didnt he? I know he injured Reihana in a legal hit.
yes he is and yes he did. Just loves smashing fluffybunnies and i love it
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@mariner4life Doran purports to be a journalist and can't even articulate his argument properly in writing. It's full of contradictions.
How is it 'Finau's 3rd strike' when the ref and tmo said two of them were fine?
How is it 'more than fractionally late' if the ref and tmo said it was fine?
If it's 'just as they release the ball' isn't that fine and wouldn't that be fractionally late?
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I can see any one of those getting him in trouble when in black. I can see the baying for blood at Twickers now. It'll take a strong ref not to yellow card him.
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@mariner4life said in All Blacks 2024 - looking forward:
"Shannon Frizell was one of the great movers in New Zealand rugby last year,
Pity the useless twat stopped moving at the time we needed him most.
