New Crusaders coach

SammyC

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Bonehead Robertsonâ€¦ great
 
As I said in the other thread.................Never sighted at club rugby (probably too busy surfing) just picks his squads exclusively from Lincoln, Christchurch and Old boys.
 
Canâ€™t even get the under 20â€™s into the semi finals.

gt12

Based on his recent results, I'm happy with that signing

Frank

Those Crusaders boys sure love their intellectual heavyweights.

Smudge

It's Robertson - from an emailed press release:
 
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New Zealand Rugby and the BNZ Crusaders are pleased to announce that Scott Robertson will replace Todd Blackadder at the helm of the Crusaders coaching team from 2017. 
 
Blackadder announced at the start of the 2016 season that it would be his last, sparking the process to appoint his successor. Former Crusaders, Canterbury and All Blacks loose forward Scott Robertson has been confirmed as the successful candidate to lead the team from 2017 through to 2019. 
 
Robertson is the current Head Coach of the Canterbury national provincial team, taking the job in 2013 and guiding the team to two Premiership titles in that role so far. He also assisted the team to five successive titles between 2008 and 2012, first as the Assistant Forwards Coach for four years and then as the Assistant Coach in 2012. 
 
He has also enjoyed success in his first year as Head Coach of the New Zealand Under 20 team, claiming victory at the 2015 Under 20 World Championship. Prior to that he was the forwards coach in 2014. Robertson is currently with the NZ Under 20 squad in Manchester. 
 
BNZ Crusaders CEO Hamish Riach says Robertson has the credentials and vision to be an outstanding Investec Super Rugby coach. 
 
â€œScott is a highly skilled coach who we believe is absolutely ready for the step up to Super Rugby. He has been an important contributor to the incredible success that the Canterbury team has enjoyed over the past eight years and he has also earned respect on the world stage as Head Coach of the New Zealand Under 20 team,â€ Mr Riach said. 
 
â€œWe had a highly contested process with some exceptional candidates, so that made it a very difficult decision in some ways. However, we are very excited about what Scott Robertson offers this team and thrilled to be appointing him to the role.â€ 
 
Robertson said taking on the Head Coach role would be like a dream come true. 
 
â€œThis is a team I have played for, am passionate about and looking forward to leading. The Head Coach of the Crusaders is regarded as one of the best jobs in the world, so I couldnâ€™t be more excited to be taking it on. 
 
â€œWhen I think about the remarkable men who have done the job before me, including current Head Coach Todd Blackadder, I am humbled and honoured to be stepping into their shoes. The previous and current coaching teams have built an impressive legacy and I take the responsibility of continuing and building on that legacy very seriously. The playing group is a great bunch of men who I am excited to work with; I will give everything to this role and am ready to take on the opportunity,â€ Robertson said. 
 
New Zealand Rugby General Manager Rugby Neil Sorensen welcomed Robertsonâ€™s appointment as an exciting new chapter for the Crusaders. 
â€œIâ€™m delighted for Scott and for Crusaders and Canterbury fans who I am sure will also celebrate his appointment. 
â€œThe appointment process was an incredibly tough one with high quality candidates. Scott will be a great addition to the Crusaders and New Zealand Rugby families. He is highly regarded as a great communicator and strategist and players thrive under his leadership,â€ Sorensen said. 
 
Robertson will continue in his role as Head Coach of the Canterbury team for the 2016 Mitre 10 Cup season, before starting in his new job. 
 
A process to complete the makeup of the Crusaders 2017 coaching team will take place at the end of the current season.</blockquote>

SammyC

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Those Crusaders boys sure love their intellectual heavyweights.
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Personally I think Robertson is even dumber than Blackadder

Chris B.

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Bonehead Robertsonâ€¦ great
 
As I said in the other thread.................Never sighted at club rugby (probably too busy surfing) just picks his squads exclusively from Lincoln, Christchurch and Old boys.
 
Canâ€™t even get the under 20â€™s into the semi finals.
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Can't say I'm overwhelmed by this appointment - I probably would have preferred Dave Hewett, but I'm a long way from making an informed assessment.
 
Let's hope Razor is better than his recent efforts with the Under 20s suggest - and that Dave Hewett sticks around as forwards coach.
 
Be interesting to see what happens with Schmidt from here. I guess if he rocks up as coach of Bay of Plenty, we can conclude that the Crusaders passed up on him and can judge accordingly.
 
Overall, our recent Super coach appointments haven't been overwhelming - Tana, Boyd, Reluctant Tony Brown, Razor. These guys are all a fair step away from AB-ready coaches - indicative that the big guns are reading the writing on the wall that Hansen is signing on for 2019 and Foster has both feet in the door for afterwards?

Cantab79

Scott Robertson is an excellent appointment. He has worked his way up through the system from club level, and has won two ITM Cup titles. That's more than the rest of the current Super Rugby head coaches combined. Sure, this year's NZ U20s campaign wasn't flash, but give him some credit he did win the tournament last year for goodness sake. To posters who are underwhelmed by Robertson's appointment, I would simply ask; what more do you want from a rookie Super Rugby coach?

Chris B.

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Scott Robertson is an excellent appointment. He has worked his way up through the system from club level, and has won two ITM Cup titles. That's more than the rest of the current Super Rugby head coaches combined. Sure, this year's NZ U20s campaign wasn't flash, but give him some credit he did win the tournament last year for goodness sake. To posters who are underwhelmed by Robertson's appointment, I would simply ask; what more do you want from a rookie Super Rugby coach?
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To win the title in his first year. :)
 
The thing that's a bit underwhelming to me is that if we've been leaving no stone unturned in digging up a new coach, we've pretty much ended up with the default that Sammy identified in post #2 of the thread.
 
It's far from a surprising appointment, but I would have been more excited with a big gun coach - particularly if they'd announced that Robbie was returning! :)

Paekakboyz

I've been impressed when hearing Scott talk about the game and his approach to coaching. Had no idea about the underbelly of selection bias etc in terms of Canterbury but from an outsiders perspective I reckon he's paid his dues and worked through the system.

He might be new but at least he's been a head coach!!

bobily

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Scott Robertson is an excellent appointment. He has worked his way up through the system from club level, and has won two ITM Cup titles. That's more than the rest of the current Super Rugby head coaches combined. Sure, this year's NZ U20s campaign wasn't flash, but give him some credit he did win the tournament last year for goodness sake. To posters who are underwhelmed by Robertson's appointment, I would simply ask; what more do you want from a rookie Super Rugby coach?
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With one of the best teams we've seen in years (and some pretty good coaches around him, too). 
 
This year, with a team that has a reasonable amount of talent, they looked terrible. He basically decided that we should run at all costs, from all areas of the field, despite the torrential rain. It is all well and good wanting to play expansive rugby, but at least try and go about it smarter than that.

taniwharugby

while the path he has tread to get to where he has is one people want more so compared to some others that get appointments, but you could argue with the cattle he has had at his disposal, those results were expected anyway, aside from this year.
 
So while on the surface underwhelming, guess we will have to see what he does next year, especially without the crusaders main strike weapon.

Mokey

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Scott Robertson is an excellent appointment. He has worked his way up through the system from club level, and has won two ITM Cup titles. That's more than the rest of the current Super Rugby head coaches combined. Sure, this year's NZ U20s campaign wasn't flash, but give him some credit he did win the tournament last year for goodness sake. To posters who are underwhelmed by Robertson's appointment, I would simply ask; what more do you want from a rookie Super Rugby coach?
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 I coulda sworn Dave Rennie had two Super titles with the Chiefs, an NPC title with Wellington, and three consecutive World U20 titles with the Baby Blacks.
 
Edit: And oh yeah, as TR said, a recent annihilation of a top tier international side.

mariner4life

fuck all really when you think about it. And what's he won lately?

taniwharugby

a one off series v Wales :)

Gunner

How about Jamie Joseph, I have nagging feeling he may have won something a while back...can't remember what though...??

taniwharugby

My guess is Cantabfan4life79 was meaning at time of appointment his credentials were better...but then as I said above, the expectations were to win anyway, it wasn't like he took a team like NH and made them into the team they should be with their resources.

SammyC

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Scott Robertson is an excellent appointment. He has worked his way up through the system from club level, and has won two ITM Cup titles. That's more than the rest of the current Super Rugby head coaches combined. Sure, this year's NZ U20s campaign wasn't flash, but give him some credit he did win the tournament last year for goodness sake. To posters who are underwhelmed by Robertson's appointment, I would simply ask; what more do you want from a rookie Super Rugby coach?
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I'll tell you what I wanted.
 
A bloke like Schmidt, Cotter or Deans. International experience and a man manager.
 
Or even Rob Penny. But it's pretty obvious he doesn't suck the right c##k to even be considered.
 
At least when he was coach of Canterbury he was out watching club rugby every weekend, same with Deans and Wayne Smith for that matter.
 
The only time I've seen Robertson is at the odd Sumner game, and he was acting like a total buffoon.

SammyC

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With one of the best teams we've seen in years (and some pretty good coaches around him, too). 
 
This year, with a team that has a reasonable amount of talent, they looked terrible. He basically decided that we should run at all costs, from all areas of the field, despite the torrential rain. It is all well and good wanting to play expansive rugby, but at least try and go about it smarter than that.
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This, the team looked poorly coached, unprepared for wet weather rugby and a complete disaster at the set piece. This all relfects on coaching and selection in my opinion

rotated

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At least when he was coach of Canterbury he was out watching club rugby every weekend, same with Deans and Wayne Smith for that matter.
 
The only time I've seen Robertson is at the odd Sumner game, and he was acting like a total buffoon.
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Won't be a problem now as Crusaders coach as their recruiting focus is much further north than the Canterbury club rugby scene.
 
Very positive appointment for the other four NZ franchises. Will surely solidify over the next 18 months the Crusaders fall from being the defacto franchise of choice for most players when it comes to recruitment.
 
What an absolute stunner - another AB gets a coaching gig. That's what 8 of the last 10 appointments? Too lopsided to believe this is even close to merit based - especially when you look at the talent forced overseas and what they are achieving.

Cantab79

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 I coulda sworn Dave Rennie had two Super titles with the Chiefs, an NPC title with Wellington, and three consecutive World U20 titles with the Baby Blacks.
 
Edit: And oh yeah, as TR said, a recent annihilation of a top tier international side.
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A very odd and defensive post. Clearly I was referring to what each coach had one when they were appointed to their SR role.

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