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@mariner4life said in All Blacks 2024:
what's really funny is
the last 3 games of the world cup we did pretty much exactly what you were asking. I was impressed and fucked off at the same time.
i think we TRIED to do it for the last 3 games, succeeded against Ireland but didnt execute well enough against SA...which kind of makes sense if you change the game play so late in the piece...i mean we needed to as the helter skelter approach wasn't going to cut it...but was just a but late to perfect it
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@African-Monkey said in All Blacks 2024:
@Bones I'd just play EB on his own, play 6, 7 and 8 at the same time, no need for anyone else.
You are going to suffer the wrath of canes fans though.
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@Bovidae said in All Blacks 2024:
I don't think of Papalii as a traditional no.7, which is what Robertson seems to like in his teams.
Yeah, reminds e a bit of Ireland's O'Brien. Thing is though, I think Papalii can play a more traditional role if required. I think he's actually quite similar to Ardie, just not as light on his feet.
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I think we are now pretty much there, composure-wise. The difference between the 2019 RWC and this one was stark. There has been a slow but steady improvement in the last 2 years (with obvious road-bumps).
Agree on picking in-form players, but also pick players to suit your game-plan and give them time to develop - e.g. Frizzell. Fine balance here and NZR need to make sure SR & Robertson are working together on this.
Robertson has a solid core to work with, plenty of time to evolve and develop game plans and players once he's comfortable with things, and develop some depth. If there are a few embarrassing losses on the way, so be it - that's the reality of Test rugby these days.
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@Windows97 said in All Blacks 2024:
Exactly!! Why weren't we playing that brand of rugby in the years prior??
Time? Turning around team culture/composure isn't as simple as flicking a switch.
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@Victor-Meldrew said in All Blacks 2024:
@Windows97 said in All Blacks 2024:
Exactly!! Why weren't we playing that brand of rugby in the years prior??
Time? Turning around team culture/composure isn't as simple as flicking a switch.
Jesus man. It doesn't take 4 years to change your game plan. Your Foster defence is perking up again.
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@Bones said in All Blacks 2024:
@Victor-Meldrew said in All Blacks 2024:
@Windows97 said in All Blacks 2024:
Exactly!! Why weren't we playing that brand of rugby in the years prior??
Time? Turning around team culture/composure isn't as simple as flicking a switch.
Jesus man. It doesn't take 4 years to change your game plan. Your Foster defence is perking up again.
Your point would be valid if I was talking about game-plans. I wasn't.
Comprehension dear boy, comprehension...
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@Victor-Meldrew said in All Blacks 2024:
@Bones said in All Blacks 2024:
@Victor-Meldrew said in All Blacks 2024:
@Windows97 said in All Blacks 2024:
Exactly!! Why weren't we playing that brand of rugby in the years prior??
Time? Turning around team culture/composure isn't as simple as flicking a switch.
Jesus man. It doesn't take 4 years to change your game plan. Your Foster defence is perking up again.
Your point would be valid if I was talking about game-plans. I wasn't.
Comprehension dear boy, comprehension...
So the culture was the issue and it took 4 years to turn that around? The culture of a team where many of the leaders were all time greats and had been ridiculously successful?
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@Victor-Meldrew said in All Blacks 2024:
@Windows97 said in All Blacks 2024:
Exactly!! Why weren't we playing that brand of rugby in the years prior??
Time? Turning around team culture/composure isn't as simple as flicking a switch.
Nah. They just changed the assistants who were far better coaches than the previous ones. Foster was always a non entity.
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@Frank said in All Blacks 2024:
@Victor-Meldrew said in All Blacks 2024:
@Windows97 said in All Blacks 2024:
Exactly!! Why weren't we playing that brand of rugby in the years prior??
Time? Turning around team culture/composure isn't as simple as flicking a switch.
Nah. They just changed the assistants who were far better coaches than the previous ones. Foster was always a non entity.
What on earth have Foster's assistants to do with generally accepted timescales to change culture in a team or organisation?
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Thread continues here, without the Foster repetitiveness:
https://www.forum.thesilverfern.com/topic/6440/all-blacks-2024-no-interminable-foster-arguments/
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