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    mooshld
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    #193

    A fast start and discipline will be the key here.

    Their points of weakness are their lineout, its not firing we can attack that. If they don't want the ball we should hold it an play for penalties but in the right parts of the field.

    The backs need to be working on long exits. They won't play fast we need to keep them deep. Oh and we need to chase those kicks pressure all the time, their wingers are no better than any others when they are static and have players running towards them.

    Scrums. Live scrumming all week our replacements need to be competitive if not better. We do that we can win this.

    Ohh and lets spice this up its one match a piece this year lets put the freedom cup on the line they can put that stupid Qatar cup on the line its all or nothing now!!

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    @sparky said in RWC Final: All Blacks v Springboks:

    Team I’d name for the Final against the Old Foe.

    Du Groot, Taylor, Lomax, Retallick, S.Barrett, Frizell, Cane, Savea, Smith, Mo’unga, Telea, J.Barrett, Ioane, Jordan, B.Barrett.

    Coles, Williams, Newell, Whitelock, Papalii, Roigard, McKenzie, ALB.

    If they bring Roigard in on the back of not even training to play, let alone playing for the last 2-3 weeks it would be retarded.

    So you might be right.

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    @Bones Cam Roigard last played on 5th October so yeah nearly three weeks ago. That said he’s been an injured finger to Aaron Smith or Finlay Christie away from being involved, so I’m sure he’s been staying trim and sharp.

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    #196

    I'm fucking buzzing.

    Went out and bought a bunch of All Black shit I don't need (jacket, beanie, backpack) so I can 'travel light' (my excuse to the wife) when actually I just plan to wear black all week.

    Will literally fly around the world in the next 7 days. I'll be on a flight tomorrow, will arrive, sleep for a day, then have the 3rd/4th game and final with one of my best friends in the world.

    Day to recover from an all time hangover (for better or worse), then back on a plane.

    We have a bunch of really nice bottles to drink and reservations for lunch at a couple of neat out-of-the-way little restaurants.

    The result will likely change the ultimate enjoyment, but this feels like one of those weeks in life where it feels like showing up to work everyday is actually worth it.

    C'mon ABs, hope you have kept some fucking receipts from that last game!

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    @stodders said in RWC Final: All Blacks v Springboks:

    Question for the front row committee/props on here - Bernard Jackman says that Porter demolished Lomax in the QF, but Barnes penalised Porter because of a preconception about Porter.

    Given the Bok scrum’s strength, is there any credence to Jackman’s claim? I’m not interested in bagging his claim because he’s Irish, more if he a valid point or not.

    “ I think Barnes went into the game with a preconception about Andrew Porter and he refereed like that. We conceded three penalties from the four scrums the All Blacks had and looking back at multiple angles, Barnes was completely wrong on two of them.

    Certainly if you look at a screenshot at certain points Porter’s hips are out and he looks like he is driving across. However, if his opposite man, their tighthead Tyrel Lomax, turns in towards our hooker without earning the right to do that by winning his battle with Porter first, then either Porter follows him in and tries to break his ribs like he did or he slips his bind to stay straight but leaves his pack exposed to a weaker scrum that could now go forward.

    The most frustrating penalty was when New Zealand had a man in the bin and decided not to bring a centre in for the scrum to go eight v eight or even move their number eight behind Lomax to try and help him. Any good loose head in the world will exploit this mismatch. Lomax was destroyed by Porter, but Barnes penalised Ireland.

    For a top class and experienced referee not to see this, especially when they decided to risk seven versus eight, is mind blowing. But to be fair, it’s been a very difficult World Cup for referees and the other officials and will be a big focus for World Rugby over the next cycle.”

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    I haven't looked at the tape, but it seemed Porters hips were WAY out. Maybe Lomax did angle in, but I didn't notice real time.

    What I can say is that Barnes has a thing about pushing straight, so by grasping the nettle and boring way in Porter was always at risk of pinging.

    By same token, if Lomax WAS boring in then if Porter had stayed straight fair chance Barnes would have blown against Black.

    Boks are big on angling in.

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    Kiwiwomble
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    @Brandon said in RWC Final: All Blacks v Springboks:

    @Kiwiwomble just a correction there bud. we didn't leave Super Rugby.. you guys threw us out 😉 so we had to make do with NH and we are okay with that now.

    We still miss playing SR but it is what it is.
    I'm hoping for an epic game and I'm hoping we have enough energy left ... I am guessing that our coaches will play a few fresh legs this weekend.

    Can see a few surprises this time around.
    Best wishes
    B

    No we didn’t…we don’t have the power too as SA has a vote

    The borders were closed and nz and aus created a temp comp to allow the teams to keep playing…SA got pissed and got a new gig, if the SA teams were happy to come and love I’m aus or nz they probably could have

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    MiketheSnow
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    @Canes4life said in RWC Final: All Blacks v Springboks:

    Question for everyone.. has this been the best WC ever?

    By a country mile

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    voodoo
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    @gt12 said in RWC Final: All Blacks v Springboks:

    I'm fucking buzzing.

    Went out and bought a bunch of All Black shit I don't need (jacket, beanie, backpack) so I can 'travel light' (my excuse to the wife) when actually I just plan to wear black all week.

    Will literally fly around the world in the next 7 days. I'll be on a flight tomorrow, will arrive, sleep for a day, then have the 3rd/4th game and final with one of my best friends in the world.

    Day to recover from an all time hangover (for better or worse), then back on a plane.

    We have a bunch of really nice bottles to drink and reservations for lunch at a couple of neat out-of-the-way little restaurants.

    The result will likely change the ultimate enjoyment, but this feels like one of those weeks in life where it feels like showing up to work everyday is actually worth it.

    C'mon ABs, hope you have kept some fucking receipts from that last game!

    Mate, this sounds fucking epic, I’m stoked for you and also seriously jealous!

    I hit up skyscanner this morning on a whim - about $3k Aussie to fly out tomorrow, back on Monday. Thought it might be more to be honest given flight costs these days

    Be rude not to, right???

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    @gt12 Good on you - enjoy it mate it will be awesome!!

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    MajorRage
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    Dilemma.

    Marathon is next Sunday. Fly out Friday.

    The world cup final is this weekend. I'd made the decision not to attend as I've invested far too much into this run. Preparing for literally over a year. Am in the best shape I've ever been in and feeling great.

    Irish's friends Dad has just offered me his ticket for face value (450 EUR) and he has an airbnb as well which I can use.

    So that is a quandry ... I've put so much focus on this run (perhaps too much focus) and thats my number one priority. Nothing else.

    Anyway, dilemma is. Eurostar or fly.

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    BerniesCorner
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    @sparky said in RWC Final: All Blacks v Springboks:

    Team I’d name for the Final against the Old Foe.

    Du Groot, Taylor, Lomax, Retallick, S.Barrett, Frizell, Cane, Savea, Smith, Mo’unga, Telea, J.Barrett, Ioane, Jordan, B.Barrett.

    Coles, Williams, Newell, Whitelock, Papalii, Roigard, McKenzie, ALB.

    French prop?

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    replied to gt12 on last edited by BerniesCorner
    #204

    @gt12 2006 I flew from London to Australia for the weekend to watch the ABs

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    nostrildamus
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    @BerniesCorner said in RWC Final: All Blacks v Springboks:

    @sparky said in RWC Final: All Blacks v Springboks:

    Team I’d name for the Final against the Old Foe.

    Du Groot, Taylor, Lomax, Retallick, S.Barrett, Frizell, Cane, Savea, Smith, Mo’unga, Telea, J.Barrett, Ioane, Jordan, B.Barrett.

    Coles, Williams, Newell, Whitelock, Papalii, Roigard, McKenzie, ALB.

    French prop?

    Well spotted, I had to read that twice.

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    BerniesCorner
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    #206

    I'm still a bit traumatized by ABs v SA at Twickenham so I'll believe we can win when I see it

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    game_film
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    @BerniesCorner greatest trick the devil ever pulled.

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    Bones
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    @MajorRage drive ya pussy

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    stodders
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    @MajorRage Eurostar. Hangover isn’t so bad on a train 😂. You’ll nail the run, even if half cut 😬

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    @Bovidae said in RWC Final: All Blacks v Springboks:

    @Billy-Tell As Foster said, bringing SB back on for 5 mins in a game already won was a risk not worth taking after the YC.

    I wonder if we could have played with an extra back instead.
    Could have made things fun.

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    Bones
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    @Darren said in RWC Final: All Blacks v Springboks:

    @Bovidae said in RWC Final: All Blacks v Springboks:

    @Billy-Tell As Foster said, bringing SB back on for 5 mins in a game already won was a risk not worth taking after the YC.

    I wonder if we could have played with an extra back instead.
    Could have made things fun.

    Penalty and red card. Against the spirit of the game.

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    @MajorRage said in RWC Final: All Blacks v Springboks:

    Dilemma.

    Marathon is next Sunday. Fly out Friday.

    The world cup final is this weekend. I'd made the decision not to attend as I've invested far too much into this run. Preparing for literally over a year. Am in the best shape I've ever been in and feeling great.

    Irish's friends Dad has just offered me his ticket for face value (450 EUR) and he has an airbnb as well which I can use.

    So that is a quandry ... I've put so much focus on this run (perhaps too much focus) and thats my number one priority. Nothing else.

    Anyway, dilemma is. Eurostar or fly.

    Not a huge amount on Eurostar available …

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