RWC Final: All Blacks v Springboks
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@Canes4life said in RWC Final: All Blacks v Springboks:
Question for everyone.. has this been the best WC ever?
Better than the last two... 2011 was pretty good, but this probably shades it, especially if we get a cracking final. Before that, I'll show my age here, but I am struggling!
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@Duluth said in RWC Final: All Blacks v Springboks:
@rustycruiser said in RWC Final: All Blacks v Springboks:
@tubbyj said in RWC Final: All Blacks v Springboks:
SA should be massive favourites.
NZ is always the favorite against the Boks, you guys have a 69% win record since 92, and 70% in the last 10 years. Nice try, but we are the underdogs going in, we have to step up our game to hang with NZ
3/3 under Foster
SA 2 wins 1 loss against Foster’s AB’s at neutral venues
NZ 100% confirmed underdogs
110%
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@stodders said in RWC Final: All Blacks v Springboks:
@Machpants as opposed to Foster’s bumbling, worst ABs ever, rag tag crew triumphing? 😂
It's a redemption story, everyone loves those. Not the evil already champs beating up on the poor underdogs, who are really without a hope
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@sparky said in RWC Final: All Blacks v Springboks:
Biggest and best rivalry in global sport, bar none.
I’d say the India vs Pakistan cricket rivalry may have a few more eyes watching (and a level of insane following) than little ol’ NZ and Sth Africa rugby….
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@ACT-Crusader said in RWC Final: All Blacks v Springboks:
@sparky said in RWC Final: All Blacks v Springboks:
Biggest and best rivalry in global sport, bar none.
I’d say the India vs Pakistan cricket rivalry may have a few more eyes watching (and a level of insane following) than little ol’ NZ and Sth Africa rugby….
Bollocks, we've been playing the Boks for quarter century before Pakistan was even a thing!
/jk
Also Cricket is weird
Format Matches played India won Pakistan won Draw/Tie/No Result
Test 59 9 12 3838/59 draws
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@ACT-Crusader said in RWC Final: All Blacks v Springboks:
@sparky said in RWC Final: All Blacks v Springboks:
Biggest and best rivalry in global sport, bar none.
I’d say the India vs Pakistan cricket rivalry may have a few more eyes watching (and a level of insane following) than little ol’ NZ and Sth Africa rugby….
LA Lakers v Boston Celtics the biggest in BasketBall
Celtic V Rangers is a pretty intense football rivalryBoth of those would be right up there.
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Biggest = I’d say a billion plus tune in when they play ODIs
Best = whilst subjective, what I would say is I’ve never ever seen anything on the level from fans of those two teams and even general cricket lovers.
It might be sparky’s favourite rivalry (mine is Nth Carolina vs Duke) but biggest and best, yeah nah.
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@Canes4life said in RWC Final: All Blacks v Springboks:
Question for everyone.. has this been the best WC ever?
One of them. I’d probably say 1995 and 2011 edge it at the moment. But let’s make a definitive judgement after the final.
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@Chris said in RWC Final: All Blacks v Springboks:
@ACT-Crusader said in RWC Final: All Blacks v Springboks:
@sparky said in RWC Final: All Blacks v Springboks:
Biggest and best rivalry in global sport, bar none.
I’d say the India vs Pakistan cricket rivalry may have a few more eyes watching (and a level of insane following) than little ol’ NZ and Sth Africa rugby….
LA Lakers v Boston Celtics the biggest in BasketBall
Celtic V Rangers is a pretty intense football rivalryBoth of those would be right up there.
Argentina England in football is also huge
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@Chris said in RWC Final: All Blacks v Springboks:
@ACT-Crusader said in RWC Final: All Blacks v Springboks:
@sparky said in RWC Final: All Blacks v Springboks:
Biggest and best rivalry in global sport, bar none.
I’d say the India vs Pakistan cricket rivalry may have a few more eyes watching (and a level of insane following) than little ol’ NZ and Sth Africa rugby….
LA Lakers v Boston Celtics the biggest in BasketBall
Celtic V Rangers is a pretty intense football rivalryBoth of those would be right up there.
Was during the 80s and then was revived for a short period during the Kobe era when the C’s had Garnett and Pierce. At least in the US the biggest basketball rivalry is the college UNC and Duke.
Real vs Barca is still massive too.
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@ACT-Crusader said in RWC Final: All Blacks v Springboks:
@Chris said in RWC Final: All Blacks v Springboks:
@ACT-Crusader said in RWC Final: All Blacks v Springboks:
@sparky said in RWC Final: All Blacks v Springboks:
Biggest and best rivalry in global sport, bar none.
I’d say the India vs Pakistan cricket rivalry may have a few more eyes watching (and a level of insane following) than little ol’ NZ and Sth Africa rugby….
LA Lakers v Boston Celtics the biggest in BasketBall
Celtic V Rangers is a pretty intense football rivalryBoth of those would be right up there.
Was during the 80s and then was revived for a short period during the Kobe era when the C’s had Garnett and Pierce. At least in the US the biggest basketball rivalry is the college UNC and Duke.
Real vs Barca is still massive too.
Real Barca yes. Don't forget the Lakers rivalry was big in the 70s as well, with Boston having LAs number in several finals
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Yep, lots of rivalries in sports.
But the All Blacks - Boks involves guys putting their bodies on the line more than most of the other ones you mention.
It’s not about sectarianism or religion, it’s about the sport.
It’s been going for over 100 years. It’s not been manufactured by the marketing men.
More often than not it’s between the top two sides in the world.
It’s about mutual respect as much as it is about being ferociously competitive.
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@ACT-Crusader said in RWC Final: All Blacks v Springboks:
@Chris said in RWC Final: All Blacks v Springboks:
@ACT-Crusader said in RWC Final: All Blacks v Springboks:
@sparky said in RWC Final: All Blacks v Springboks:
Biggest and best rivalry in global sport, bar none.
I’d say the India vs Pakistan cricket rivalry may have a few more eyes watching (and a level of insane following) than little ol’ NZ and Sth Africa rugby….
LA Lakers v Boston Celtics the biggest in BasketBall
Celtic V Rangers is a pretty intense football rivalryBoth of those would be right up there.
Was during the 80s and then was revived for a short period during the Kobe era when the C’s had Garnett and Pierce. At least in the US the biggest basketball rivalry is the college UNC and Duke.
Real vs Barca is still massive too.
Doesn't it go back a bit before then?
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@tubbyj said in RWC Final: All Blacks v Springboks:
SA should be massive favourites.
The neutrals despite what they will claim will want SA to win. The Irish will be obsessed with seeing NZ punished for beating them, the English will want the Saffers to win so they can believe they were a whisker from winning the whole thing and the Welsh and Scottish will see more sport in winding up NZ fans after a loss. French, Argentinian and Italian fans will probably support NZ but it will be lost in translation.
Finally Rassie Erasmus is a proven RWC winning coach. Ian Foster couldn't even win a Super rugby title, Joe Schmidt couldn't get the Irish past the quarterfinals and Jason Ryan is still finding his feet at International level.
Nah, you're wrong. The general consensus back home and social media is the neutrals want the AB's to win, for rugby's sake. Same for me, even though you're all a bunch of fluffybunnies in here
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@booboo said in RWC Final: All Blacks v Springboks:
@ACT-Crusader said in RWC Final: All Blacks v Springboks:
@Chris said in RWC Final: All Blacks v Springboks:
@ACT-Crusader said in RWC Final: All Blacks v Springboks:
@sparky said in RWC Final: All Blacks v Springboks:
Biggest and best rivalry in global sport, bar none.
I’d say the India vs Pakistan cricket rivalry may have a few more eyes watching (and a level of insane following) than little ol’ NZ and Sth Africa rugby….
LA Lakers v Boston Celtics the biggest in BasketBall
Celtic V Rangers is a pretty intense football rivalryBoth of those would be right up there.
Was during the 80s and then was revived for a short period during the Kobe era when the C’s had Garnett and Pierce. At least in the US the biggest basketball rivalry is the college UNC and Duke.
Real vs Barca is still massive too.
Doesn't it go back a bit before then?
Started with Elgin Baylor and Jerry West's Lakers
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@The-Irishman said in RWC Final: All Blacks v Springboks:
@tubbyj said in RWC Final: All Blacks v Springboks:
SA should be massive favourites.
The neutrals despite what they will claim will want SA to win. The Irish will be obsessed with seeing NZ punished for beating them, the English will want the Saffers to win so they can believe they were a whisker from winning the whole thing and the Welsh and Scottish will see more sport in winding up NZ fans after a loss. French, Argentinian and Italian fans will probably support NZ but it will be lost in translation.
Finally Rassie Erasmus is a proven RWC winning coach. Ian Foster couldn't even win a Super rugby title, Joe Schmidt couldn't get the Irish past the quarterfinals and Jason Ryan is still finding his feet at International level.
Nah, you're wrong. The general consensus back home and social media is the neutrals want the AB's to win, for rugby's sake. Same for me, even though you're all a bunch of fluffybunnies in here
In here? Pretty sure that extends beyond...
Anyway, you Irish are growing on me again with comments like that 😀
