RWC Week 5: France v Italy
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We an actually have some good refs other than Barnes, but they’re not at the RWC. I’m amazed that Carley and Dickson got the gig, they are two that give you the cold sweats when you see them reffing your team.
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@Catogrande Pearce always calls it right down the middle.
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Yeah he would be close to the top of my list of English refs. How those other two got the nod over him beggars belief
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@Steven-Harris said in RWC Week 5: France v Italy:
You have got to wonder after 18 years in the 6 Nations why the Italians have not improved, I reckon if you stuck Tonga ,Samoa and Fiji in that same comp they would be much more of a threat
You don't watch the 6N do ya?
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@Catogrande said in RWC Week 5: France v Italy:
We an actually have some good refs other than Barnes, but they’re not at the RWC. I’m amazed that Carley and Dickson got the gig, they are two that give you the cold sweats when you see them reffing your team.
Given how Dickson, Jonkers and the crowd reacted in this game, should we just call France versus whoever (I'm trying to be open minded and pretend Scotland have a chance) a 20 point thrashing by France after a few cards and a one-sided penalty count?
That's me just being optimistic that MAYBE the IRB will try and improve the standard of refs for the semis and finals and other teams may have a chance.
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For the good of the game we have to hope England progress
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@MiketheSnow said in RWC Week 5: France v Italy:
For the good of the game we have to hope England progress
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@Bones said in RWC Week 5: France v Italy:
@PecoTrain dollars to donuts that Carley, Dickson, Pearce and Jonkers will all be involved in finals rugby.
Well France with the crowd behind them playing unlimited free penalties from the ref isn't beatable. In my humble opinion...
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@NTA said in RWC Week 5: France v Italy:
@Snowy said in RWC Week 5: France v Italy:
Amen. Saw the ref the other day was Barnes and thought “bugger”
I realise the levels of angst toward Barnes are (unreasonably) high among Kiwi fans, but he's actually about the best ref going around at the moment.
Yeah, low bar, and I still don't like his style . He often coaches one side and refs the other. I was at Cardiff and he is the reason that I haven't attended a live RWC match since. Previously I travelled the world going to RWC and tests. I'm unlikely to forgive him for destroying my faith in rugby as a fair contest, or the officials to 100% of the time conduct it as such. IIRC France gave away 2 penalties, that is unheard of and many of the infringements were very clear from the stands.
I still follow rugby obviously, it is in my blood, but cricket (test mostly) has exceeded it as my sporting passion. The advances in tech, and the evolution of the rules to incorporate that, has taken some of the officiating anomalies out of the contest. It has given the power back to the players, where it should be. Tennis has done the same, and even league has a captain's challenge and better use of TMO.
That should be in the "rugby in general" probably, but it is a reply to a post here, so...
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Ouch
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@nostrildamus said in RWC Week 5: France v Italy:
@NTA said in RWC Week 5: France v Italy:
@Snowy said in RWC Week 5: France v Italy:
Amen. Saw the ref the other day was Barnes and thought “bugger”
I realise the levels of angst toward Barnes are (unreasonably) high among Kiwi fans, but he's actually about the best ref going around at the moment.
his communication is very clear and doesn't seem to get rattled often, but in 2007 he really should have gone to Refsavers.
That incident, along with underarm, is the Double Penetration with no lube in the Niu Zulland Sporting Book Of Grudges.
Forget the other 79 minutes where the ABs didn't play better than France 🤣
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@NTA said in RWC Week 5: France v Italy:
@nostrildamus said in RWC Week 5: France v Italy:
@NTA said in RWC Week 5: France v Italy:
@Snowy said in RWC Week 5: France v Italy:
Amen. Saw the ref the other day was Barnes and thought “bugger”
I realise the levels of angst toward Barnes are (unreasonably) high among Kiwi fans, but he's actually about the best ref going around at the moment.
his communication is very clear and doesn't seem to get rattled often, but in 2007 he really should have gone to Refsavers.
That incident, along with underarm, is the Double Penetration with no lube in the Niu Zulland Sporting Book Of Grudges.
Forget the other 79 minutes where the ABs didn't play better than France 🤣
…..or the fact that McKechnie had Bob Hope and no hope of hitting a six off the last ball.
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@MN5 said in RWC Week 5: France v Italy:
…..or the fact that McKechnie had Bob Hope and no hope of hitting a six off the last ball.
If there was no hope at all one questions the tactical decision made to bowl it underarm. And I believe/recall he needed a 6 to even tie?
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@nostrildamus said in RWC Week 5: France v Italy:
@MN5 said in RWC Week 5: France v Italy:
…..or the fact that McKechnie had Bob Hope and no hope of hitting a six off the last ball.
If there was no hope at all one questions the tactical decision made to bowl it underarm. And I believe/recall he needed a 6 to even tie?
Yep. It’s embarrassing that people were as pissed off as they were and even more so that it’s still talked about today.
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@NTA said in RWC Week 5: France v Italy:
Forget the other 79 minutes where the ABs didn't play better than France
Seriously? We fucked up their shit no end for the entire match, but his inexperience and objective bias screwed us. And it wasn't just the forward pass.
He cost us over 20 points and we lost by two.
All Black haters gunna hate though.
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@MN5 said in RWC Week 5: France v Italy:
@nostrildamus said in RWC Week 5: France v Italy:
@MN5 said in RWC Week 5: France v Italy:
…..or the fact that McKechnie had Bob Hope and no hope of hitting a six off the last ball.
If there was no hope at all one questions the tactical decision made to bowl it underarm. And I believe/recall he needed a 6 to even tie?
Yep. It’s embarrassing that people were as pissed off as they were and even more so that it’s still talked about today.
Nup. Still illustrative of the gutlessness of the Australian "sportsman".
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@Steven-Harris said in RWC Week 5: France v Italy:
@Bones i just never watch Italy
Pretty hard to improve if you never watch them I guess eh.