RWC Week 3: Wales v Australia
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@Rancid-Schnitzel said in RWC Week 3: Wales v Australia:
@barbarian said in RWC Week 3: Wales v Australia:
I don't think Eddie holds many cards at all. They are all equally rooted. There won't be any protests if he gets sacked, or walks.
He holds them all. He either stays on and continues to get paid for shitty results (any other coach would be gone already), gets fired with pay, or leaves and picks up his Japan gig. He's fine. It's Aus rugby that's completely fŭcked.
I very doubtful that Japan will want him, after the leak etc I not sure they will be wanting to be associated with the whole mess.
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@Kirwan said in RWC Week 3: Wales v Australia:
That was a disappointing watch. One of the worst performances I've ever seen from them, and that's not good for rugby in this part of the world.
We need to help them get strong again. Less teams for them and a better comp structure in Super rugby.
That should be first thing, but as their esteemed chairman has saidm Australia will have 5 teams as long as he is there! As Hoiles pointed out having 5 teams means all teams are paying for overseas players that can't play for Wallabies.
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Hopefully this is the catalyst for them to become professional in their organisation. At the moment it's starting to feel like the bad old days when NZRU helped fund them with touring. It's why we have an annual Bledisloe fixture.
They need a competitive, attractive competition. They need better alignment from club - school - club competitions. They need a broader base at the amateur level which drives participation and interest. But it feels like too many bad faith actors. All of this has been said before but the genuine difficulty is the ease with which a half decent player can go overseas and earn coin.
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@barbarian said in RWC Week 3: Wales v Australia:
I don't think Eddie holds many cards at all. They are all equally rooted. There won't be any protests if he gets sacked, or walks.
He's only got one card, but it's the trump card - his contract.
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@Rancid-Schnitzel said in RWC Week 3: Wales v Australia:
I was at a pretty packed gym and nobody gave a fůck. People checked out on the Wallabies a long time ago.
Yup, nobody cares. I'm on my way into work, and I know I'm going to have a lot of chats about rugby today. They will be with my English, Irish, Welsh, Saffa and Kiwi colleagues. Most of the born and raised Aussies will not even be aware of the result, or if they are they won't really care. It's got about the same level of interest as the netball world cup right now.
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@Dan54 said in RWC Week 3: Wales v Australia:
@Rancid-Schnitzel said in RWC Week 3: Wales v Australia:
@barbarian said in RWC Week 3: Wales v Australia:
I don't think Eddie holds many cards at all. They are all equally rooted. There won't be any protests if he gets sacked, or walks.
He holds them all. He either stays on and continues to get paid for shitty results (any other coach would be gone already), gets fired with pay, or leaves and picks up his Japan gig. He's fine. It's Aus rugby that's completely fŭcked.
I very doubtful that Japan will want him, after the leak etc I not sure they will be wanting to be associated with the whole mess.
They made a movie about 2015 and what he did for that team. Maybe they'll consider it a massive compliment that he's throwing his own nation under the bus for them? Who knows what they talked about or agreed to. But what is clear is that despite all this talk about building for the future, EJ seems to already have an eye on the door. Absolute debacle is an understatement.
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Apologies if already posted...
SBW cops alot of shit, but he is on the money here
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@mariner4life said in RWC Week 3: Wales v Australia:
@kiwiinmelb said in RWC Week 3: Wales v Australia:
With afl finals in Melbourne, nrl in Sydney, no one appears to give a fuck here . That’s the biggest concern , the wallabies could die completely and no one seems to care , its a bigger story in Nz .
i found it telling that even hard core rugby supporters were so resigned to losing today, and said it with a shrug of their shoulders.
Will be the same with us when we lose the quarters
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@Machpants said in RWC Week 3: Wales v Australia:
@mariner4life said in RWC Week 3: Wales v Australia:
@kiwiinmelb said in RWC Week 3: Wales v Australia:
With afl finals in Melbourne, nrl in Sydney, no one appears to give a fuck here . That’s the biggest concern , the wallabies could die completely and no one seems to care , its a bigger story in Nz .
i found it telling that even hard core rugby supporters were so resigned to losing today, and said it with a shrug of their shoulders.
Will be the same with us when we lose the quarters
Is it better to be prepared, or like last time we lost in QF and gobsmacked?
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Another Kiwi Welshman starring in red this time
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@Kirwan said in RWC Week 3: Wales v Australia:
We need to help them get strong again. Less teams for them and a better comp structure in Super rugby
Why? How?
Less teams just means less money and less chance at results.
We need to revamp all our shit internally. Forget the pro level at this point. It can't be papered over.
This will take a decade of proper grassroots reform.
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@Stargazer said in RWC Week 3: Wales v Australia:
@mencey said in RWC Week 3: Wales v Australia:
Game over me thinks. Will they keep Eddie?
I suspect they'll keep Eddie ... with all the excuses of the Lions Tour and "2027"
Didn't think about that. The Lions will absolutely slaughter the Wallabies unless there are some serious changes. The thing that worries me is the way the All Blacks played against SA in the warm up and there first game against France, we may be looking down the barrel of another hiding against Ireland in the semi's assuming we get that far. Scott Robinson may have his work cut out for him the next few years. The defence of Ireland and Wales the last couple of days has been outstanding.
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@taniwharugby said in RWC Week 3: Wales v Australia:
Apologies if already posted...
SBW cops alot of shit, but he is on the money here
Based on what I saw, he was the only explayer who had a pop at Eddie. Respect for that. Pity he has the oratory skills of Hodor.
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Can't wait for a hungover Drew Mitchell take on this.
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@mencey said in RWC Week 3: Wales v Australia:
@Stargazer said in RWC Week 3: Wales v Australia:
@mencey said in RWC Week 3: Wales v Australia:
Game over me thinks. Will they keep Eddie?
I suspect they'll keep Eddie ... with all the excuses of the Lions Tour and "2027"
Didn't think about that. The Lions will absolutely slaughter the Wallabies unless there are some serious changes. The thing that worries me is the way the All Blacks played against SA in the warm up and there first game against France, we may be looking down the barrel of another hiding against Ireland in the semi's assuming we get that far. Scott Robinson may have his work cut out for him the next few years. The defence of Ireland and Wales the last couple of days has been outstanding.
We face Ireland in the quarters, no way we make the semis. I am hoping we make a game of it unlike the wallabies here
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@Rancid-Schnitzel said in RWC Week 3: Wales v Australia:
@taniwharugby said in RWC Week 3: Wales v Australia:
Apologies if already posted...
SBW cops alot of shit, but he is on the money here
Based on what I saw, he was the only explayer who had a pop at Eddie. Respect for that. Pity he has the oratory skills of Hodor.
He is barely coherent, but the point he (eventually) makes is correct. He also looks genuinely pissed off, he really cares
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@antipodean said in RWC Week 3: Wales v Australia:
Can't wait for a hungover Drew Mitchell take on this.
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@Rancid-Schnitzel said in RWC Week 3: Wales v Australia:
@taniwharugby said in RWC Week 3: Wales v Australia:
Apologies if already posted...
SBW cops alot of shit, but he is on the money here
Based on what I saw, he was the only explayer who had a pop at Eddie. Respect for that. Pity he has the oratory skills of Hodor.
I think he spoke pretty well actually, to be fair maybe that is cos he was standing next to Justin Plank Harrison who looked like he’d swallowed a wasp.
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@Machpants said in RWC Week 3: Wales v Australia:
@mencey said in RWC Week 3: Wales v Australia:
@Stargazer said in RWC Week 3: Wales v Australia:
@mencey said in RWC Week 3: Wales v Australia:
Game over me thinks. Will they keep Eddie?
I suspect they'll keep Eddie ... with all the excuses of the Lions Tour and "2027"
Didn't think about that. The Lions will absolutely slaughter the Wallabies unless there are some serious changes. The thing that worries me is the way the All Blacks played against SA in the warm up and there first game against France, we may be looking down the barrel of another hiding against Ireland in the semi's assuming we get that far. Scott Robinson may have his work cut out for him the next few years. The defence of Ireland and Wales the last couple of days has been outstanding.
We face Ireland in the quarters, no way we make the semis. I am hoping we make a game of it unlike the wallabies here
