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    Maybe. Didn’t feel like it though. Felt like the wheels could come off right up to about the 60th minute

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    @Bones said in RWC: Springboks v Scotland:

    @Derm-McCrum said in RWC: Springboks v Scotland:

    knowledgeable

    Herein lies the issue.

    True. it's nearly the same in Ireland, in fairness.

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    Gussy T, Curry, Kriel. Spot the difference.

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    Was he using morse?

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    @Machpants shining the light in the refs eyes when the Boks were off thier feet 😉

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    @MiketheSnow said in RWC: Springboks v Scotland:

    SA unnecessarily rolling the dice with the bench

    They’re going to come unstuck sooner rather than later

    Faf gets injured, SA lose

    Personally I think it's pretty smart of them if they can get away with just 2 back subs.

    They can sub basically the entire forward pack so they can maintain a high intensity bash-em-up game which plays to their strengths.

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    Sometimes having a short front row can be an advantage in the scrums as you get underneath taller opponents.

    While Scotland did make handling errors, the scrum and lineout woes in the 2nd half were their biggest problem. van der Merwe wasn't in the game until the last 20 mins.

    I've always thought that Scotland is a better chance to beat Ireland than SA.

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    @Windows97 said in RWC Week 1: Springboks v Scotland:

    @MiketheSnow said in RWC: Springboks v Scotland:

    SA unnecessarily rolling the dice with the bench

    They’re going to come unstuck sooner rather than later

    Faf gets injured, SA lose

    Personally I think it's pretty smart of them if they can get away with just 2 back subs.

    They can sub basically the entire forward pack so they can maintain a high intensity bash-em-up game which plays to their strengths.

    Agreed
    Williams was excellent

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    That was a very dumb performance by the the boks.

    We have issues with goal kicking, but a monster maul, so what do we do? Take two very ambitious shots when we could go to the corner to turn the screw.

    The frontrow took until half time to set up properly. In the first they were caught with their feet too far back, but didn't fix it themselves.

    Twice holding balls in messy mauls leading to turnovers.

    Kicking three grubbers while in the Scottish 22.

    Cheslin twice getting caught out of position for 50 22s (recovered the first one).

    Not good enough.

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    @Bovidae said in RWC Week 1: Springboks v Scotland:

    Sometimes having a short front row can be an advantage in the scrums as you get underneath taller opponents.

    While Scotland did make handling errors, the scrum and lineout woes in the 2nd half were their biggest problem. van der Merwe wasn't in the game until the last 20 mins.

    I've always thought that Scotland is a better chance to beat Ireland than SA.

    Yeah, although recent history favours the Irish. Scotland haven’t had a win since 2017.

    I think the world ranking of fifth is pretty generous because ( maybe this is history speaking ) even if they did knock over Ireland I still reckon there’s a snowballs chance in hell of them beating the ABs in a quarter final.

    But then…..

    Foster.

    So exciting times coming up !!!!

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    I hope Ireland will knock over SA and top their group. I give us no chance at all against SA and while I think Ireland will beat us, it will be a lot closer. With a bit of luck who knows we may even just scrape through.

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    @akan004 SA have never beaten us in a quarter/semi have they?

    That can be another '1st' if it happens for that list someone is making....but I think we are more than capable of beating them, we just need to play more than 30 odd minutes.

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    @SidBarret said in RWC Week 1: Springboks v Scotland:

    That was a very dumb performance by the the boks.

    We have issues with goal kicking, but a monster maul, so what do we do? Take two very ambitious shots when we could go to the corner to turn the screw.

    The frontrow took until half time to set up properly. In the first they were caught with their feet too far back, but didn't fix it themselves.

    Twice holding balls in messy mauls leading to turnovers.

    Kicking three grubbers while in the Scottish 22.

    Cheslin twice getting caught out of position for 50 22s (recovered the first one).

    Not good enough.

    Agree with everything here.
    I felt the Boks struggled to get out of second gear. Driving mauls - the few they tried - were sloppy. In fairness, credit must go to Scotland for blunting this weapon, although I felt that if we persisted, we would have come right.
    And some of the decisions to go for posts from penalties were just dumb. The one from +50m rates as idiotic. We were winning our lineouts pretty well, and eventually the rolling maul would have clicked...

    But I will take the win and we can move on. I thought Scotland could be a real banana peel for us, glad we negotiated our way through this.

    And as a footnote: Jesse Kriel was jolly lucky to avoid any sanction for the headclash tackle. Certainly if the same ruling that affected Tom Curry was made. Which, in my opinion is a yellow only for what it's worth. Thought the upgrade to red for Curry was stupid.

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    @taniwharugby Don't think we have the pack to match them. We may hold our own with our starting pack, but as they start to tire and when their bomb squad comes on we will struggle imo. Our forward reserves aren't in the same league as theirs.

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    Re the head clash - yeah both the big calls were wrong this weekend - both should have been yellow cards.

    The whole point of the "over punishment" of high tackles is aimed at getting players to change behaviour, but if smashing your own head and getting a yellow isn't going change behaviour then nothing will.

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    @SidBarret nah mate. Once you’ve given Gussy T a 3 week ban for the hit on Ringrose last year, you’ve set the standard. Curry and Kriel need to do some porridge.

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    @game_film said in RWC Week 1: Springboks v Scotland:

    set the standard

    problem is, the standard seems to change week to week

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    @game_film and Telea and Frizell got nothing for their high shots at Mt Smart.

    The issue is that the current framework puts way too much pressure on referees to make game deciding calls in every game, but it is premised on the idea that it will make the game safer which I don't think is the case.

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