RWC Week 1: France v All Blacks
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@MN5 said in RWC: France v All Blacks:
@Bovidae said in RWC: France v All Blacks:
Telea still has some major flaws in his game (getting himself isolated too often and poor positional sense on defence) but he is certainly dangerous with the ball.
He has that uncanny knack of staying on his feet in tough situations that’s for sure. So slippery. Is it just me or is he not super quick though ?
He was out of position when France scored one of their tries which was unfortunate
He’s not the full package, but hellishly elusive.
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@MN5 said in RWC: France v All Blacks:
He was out of position when France scored one of their tries which was unfortunate
Yes, he has a habit of jamming in when that player is already covered by defenders and leaving his winger free. Telea did the same at Mt Smart against SA.
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@Bovidae said in RWC: France v All Blacks:
Telea still has some major flaws in his game (getting himself isolated too often and poor positional sense on defence) but he is certainly dangerous with the ball.
Couple of times, had he nudged ball on when a bit isolated it would have been foot race between French and Rieko.
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@pakman said in RWC: France v All Blacks:
Couple of times, had he nudged go weds on when a bit isolated
Wtf
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@BerniesCorner said in RWC: France v All Blacks:
@pakman said in RWC: France v All Blacks:
Couple of times, had he nudged go weds on when a bit isolated
Wtf
I would have thought it was quite self explanatory. What part don't you get?
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I can’t believe you’re bagging the only guy who looked like scoring all night
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@MiketheSnow not sure people are bagging him, but the penalties for holding on are an improvement that needs to be made to his (very impressive) game. My old man said to me be a couple of days ago that Talea was prone to getting a bit isolated. I responded that he ends up away from his support on occasions because he beats opposition that nobody expects him to. I think there were 3 holding on penalties against him in this match? Obviously I was looking for it after that conversation. The follow on to that discussion was whether it is better to give away the penalty, or trust your transition to defence.
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@antipodean No one is denying we may have a drop in player quality but there is not alot can be done about that. We can do something about the coaching by ensuring (and as fans insisting) we have the best candidates possible in these roles.
Regardless our player quality which is not Italy, Scotland, Wales levels (we are still in the top tier) we should not be losing in the humiliating style we are.
I think most All Black fans can handle losing and not being No1 but what we hate is looking clueless and inept.
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I'm really pissed off. Leaderless. Bone headed. Brainless. No plan A, B, or C. No team spirit, no team. Worst team for as long as I can remember. Utterly dire. Where are the forwards? Whitelock is like someone's Nan, Retallick was past it three years ago. Both have given their all but are now spent. Why do we persist in trying to run out from the 22 every bloody time. Kick the ball away with moments to go. Tactically inept. Any chance we can play field position rather than trying to win the game from our own 22. Ultimately nowhere near good enough and zero smarts. The sooner this farce ends the better IMO. Just bloody embarassing. Infringement after infringement. We look like Dinosaurs. Take a bow Foster, ****** us in less than 5 years. Please leave.
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Captaincy seems to be an issue no matter who is captain.
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@nostrildamus said in RWC: France v All Blacks:
Captaincy seems to be an issue no matter who is captain.
Another brainless decision. You don't select Ardie to be your captain when he has won nothing as a captain. The obvious picks would be Whitelock and Barrett who are SR winning captains, Whitelock would be my preferred choice due to his seniority.
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I'm watching England v Argentina. All England are doing is booting anything from inside their own half and then waiting for Argentina mistakes.
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@Joans-Town-Jones Much better than our tactics.
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@KiwiMurph exactly my point. France essentially did the same to us. Mistake after mistake, maybe should have gone for the try instead of a kick for goal but France really didn't play anything from inside their own half.
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@Joans-Town-Jones said in RWC: France v All Blacks:
I'm watching England v Argentina. All England are doing is booting anything from inside their own half and then waiting for Argentina mistakes.
That is what we used to be famous for. Sure we've had some brilliant attackers. But the aura was built on tough uncompromising defence, strong set piece work and relentless pressure placed on an opposition who will inevitably fold
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@canefan said in RWC: France v All Blacks:
@Joans-Town-Jones said in RWC: France v All Blacks:
I'm watching England v Argentina. All England are doing is booting anything from inside their own half and then waiting for Argentina mistakes.
That is what we used to be famous for. Sure we've had some brilliant attackers. But the aura was built on tough uncompromising defence, strong set piece work and relentless pressure placed on an opposition who will inevitably fold
We also used to be famous for 10 man rugby.
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@Crazy-Horse but in the past 20 years or so we have been sucked into the illusion that good rugby is only scoring tries, and been pretty successful at it meaning we seem to have largely lost the ability to grind wins...no way could we have done what England did today, we'd have been pushing for tries all day.
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@Crazy-Horse said in RWC: France v All Blacks:
@canefan said in RWC: France v All Blacks:
@Joans-Town-Jones said in RWC: France v All Blacks:
I'm watching England v Argentina. All England are doing is booting anything from inside their own half and then waiting for Argentina mistakes.
That is what we used to be famous for. Sure we've had some brilliant attackers. But the aura was built on tough uncompromising defence, strong set piece work and relentless pressure placed on an opposition who will inevitably fold
We also used to be famous for 10 man rugby.
That's what I was getting at
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@taniwharugby said in RWC: France v All Blacks:
@Crazy-Horse but in the past 20 years or so we have been sucked into the illusion that good rugby is only scoring tries, and been pretty successful at it meaning we seem to have largely lost the ability to grind wins...no way could we have done what England did today, we'd have been pushing for tries all day.
Maybe in the late McCaw era, maybe. But you are right, winning ugly is still winning
