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  • MiketheSnowM Offline
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    #1561

    I’ve seen this film before but the good guys were in red

    And I felt, or I was told to feel, that the players in red were not smart enough or athletic enough to execute the coach’s vision

    Turns out the players in red were smart enough and athletic enough but the coach was too pig headed and stubborn to admit that he was wrong

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  • DuluthD Offline
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    #1562

    @Mattasaurus said in RWC: France v All Blacks:

    Akira and Sotutu ( have watched both live in NPC recently) are not lighting the NPC on fire.... really starting to view them both as flat track Auckland schoolboy players.... was hoping Akira would be stung by begin dropped and have a fire lit inside him.... but not from what I have seen in NPC so far ( as someone said earlier there is a bloody good player in him .... just not seeing it yet)--
    and Sotutu miles off the pace for international rugby IMO on current form

    Sotutu not in great from.

    Akira has been great. In the Auckland player of the match polls he's had two firsts and a second.. and is clearly in the cumulative lead. Topping the stats in almost every game he plays.

    Fuck even TJ was praising him for his enormous workrate in the tight and pointed out that not enough people are giving him credit

    A bizarre post. I don't know how anyone watching the NPC doesn't recognise how good he is playing

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  • ChrisC Offline
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    #1563

    ALB was he even playing, inspired choice to play him at 2nd five impact was Zero.

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  • taniwharugbyT Offline
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    #1564

    @Bovidae and worse when you choose to play at the wrong end of the field, French played smart and we allowed them to keep the scoreboard ticking over when we were unable to capitalise on our chances

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  • KiwiMurphK Offline
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    #1565

    That's probably about as well as 2023 Beauden can play. That's his peak.

    Laughable.

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  • canefanC Offline
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    @Chris said in RWC: France v All Blacks:

    ALB was he even playing, inspired choice to play him at 2nd five impact was Zero.

    He and Havili offer nothing in that regard. We aren't Coke classic, we are Coke Zero

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  • canefanC Offline
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    #1567

    My hope for next year, is that we select the right players, and play a simple effective game plan to allow them to shine. That is all. But something we aren't doing right now

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    @canefan said in RWC: France v All Blacks:

    @Chris said in RWC: France v All Blacks:

    ALB was he even playing, inspired choice to play him at 2nd five impact was Zero.

    He and Havili offer nothing in that regard. We aren't Coke classic, we are Coke Zero

    I can’t agree with this as Coke Zero is good for you.

    Fuck, Jordie can’t get fit enough quick enough can he ?

    I was fairly sure the ABs were fucked when “twin impact subs” Havili and Christie took the field at the same time.

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    #1569

    @Victor-Meldrew Quite. Well, we know who Captain Mainwaring is!!

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    @MN5 said in RWC: France v All Blacks:

    @canefan said in RWC: France v All Blacks:

    @Chris said in RWC: France v All Blacks:

    ALB was he even playing, inspired choice to play him at 2nd five impact was Zero.

    He and Havili offer nothing in that regard. We aren't Coke classic, we are Coke Zero

    I can’t agree with this as Coke Zero is good for you.

    Fuck, Jordie can’t get fit enough quick enough can he ?

    I was fairly sure the ABs were fucked when “twin impact subs” Havili and Christie took the field at the same time.

    As a dentist I can tell you Coke Zero appears to be good, but is actually bad or worse than Coke Classic. My analogy is sound

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    If I was to take any positive out of that, it was that we did enough to win that game if we had an ounce of game smarts...we could have had that almost out reach after 40, but gee, when did we become so fucking stubborn with our tactics and inability to adjust?

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  • canefanC Offline
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    @His-Bobness said in RWC: France v All Blacks:

    @Victor-Meldrew Quite. Well, we know who Captain Mainwaring is!!

    We could be Hogan's Heroes

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  • antipodeanA Online
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    Quick report from your local correspondent here in fucking hot Paris:

    Backroom full of donkeys. Vaai, predictability, the worst of them. Tight five carried them. In as much as you can call that display "carried".

    De Groot will want to forget that game in a hurry. ALB was MIA after that beautiful pop pass to Rieko.
    Will Jordan is obviously a very dimwitted slow learner. Jump to contest you fuckwomble.

    Beaudy was bloody good until the final quarter. As was Mounga.

    The blame for you Foster haters needs to be apportioned to the rest of the coaching staff who have had plenty of time to address the obvious issues. This was a collective display of incompetence.

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  • Chester DrawsC Offline
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    @taniwharugby said in RWC: France v All Blacks:

    If I was to take any positive out of that, it was that we did enough to win that game if we had an ounce of game smarts...we could have had that almost out reach after 40, but gee, when did we become so fucking stubborn with our tactics and inability to adjust?

    About six years ago.

    At not once in his four years has Foster shown any signs of a desire to adjust. He has been quite plain, even when losing badly, that he thinks things are on track.

    The ABs played OK in the first half, but we were still not leading. And there lies the real problem. We aren't very good even when playing well.

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  • KiwiMurphK Offline
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    #1575

    One positive - for all the bitching about the jersey it was fine.

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  • MiketheSnowM Offline
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    replied to MN5 on last edited by
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    @MN5 said in RWC: France v All Blacks:

    @canefan said in RWC: France v All Blacks:

    @Chris said in RWC: France v All Blacks:

    I can’t agree with this as Coke Zero is good for you.

    What you talking about Willis?

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    #1577

    According to Rugby Database, for the first time in All Blacks history, they have lost two tests in a row by 13 or more points. They lost by 28 against the Springboks at Twickenham and by 14 to France today.

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    replied to antipodean on last edited by Machpants
    #1578

    @antipodean said in RWC: France v All Blacks:

    Quick report from your local correspondent here in fucking hot Paris:

    Backroom full of donkeys. Vaai, predictability, the worst of them. Tight five carried them. In as much as you can call that display "carried".

    De Groot will want to forget that game in a hurry. ALB was MIA after that beautiful pop pass to Rieko.
    Will Jordan is obviously a very dimwitted slow learner. Jump to contest you fuckwomble.

    Beaudy was bloody good until the final quarter. As was Mounga.

    The blame for you Foster haters needs to be apportioned to the rest of the coaching staff who have had plenty of time to address the obvious issues. This was a collective display of incompetence.

    The buck stops at the head coach. And with Ryan and Schmidt we have had some games which forwards really muscled up and attack was good versus decent opposition. Prior to them, none. So yes Ryan and Schmidt are part of the selectors and coaching team, but there has been improvement with them on board. Foster has the final say, and the midfield bomb/millions of short kicks/play in your own 22 has been the default under the entire foster tenure. And that leads to our losses

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  • BerniesCornerB Offline
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    #1579

    1/4 final
    No worries
    Run it but not in own half
    Own half kick it as hard as you can
    JB SF TL back in.
    Roigard sub
    Abolish dinks
    NZR are idiots

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  • Joans Town JonesJ Offline
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    @ARHS said in RWC: France v All Blacks:

    Hmm. Two big turn points cost us. Substitution of Aaron Smith and a howler from Finlay Christie totally lost momentum. Brain explosion from Dalton Papalii in front of the ref cost us heavily and he could have been pinged a couple of minutes later.
    Tactics seemed daft in second half. What on earth did Havili bring? Can't quite figure out average kicking game. Mounga saved his day with the glorious try saving tackle. Beauden and Will Jordan were a real mixed bag for me.
    Pluses were Mark Telea with his energy, the form of our locks with Brodie back and the work of Ardie in the second half.
    Jacobson did a lot of good stuff when he came on. Was Vaii the right selection at 6?
    French were great with Mauvaka Alldritt and Penaud standouts for me. Thought Jaco Peyper was very good.
    Final comment is why the hell do you sub Telea in that situation when Will Jordan is so rocks and diamonds.
    Correction. 3 turn points with the stereotypical high risk turned bad moment from Will Jordan

    3 points instead of 5. For me that was it.

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