Quitting your job without giving notice
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<p>Good job Raz!</p>
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<p>I didn't have so much luck. They came back to me and said they were impressed at my enthusiasm to try and work out a solution for the notice period. I had the interview which went very well and it was decided that if I was the best candidate then we would sit down and work out the notice situation. The decision was due over the weekend unfortunately for me as apparently one of their existing contractors in Auckland has now decided that he is happy to relocate and take the role. Bugger. And to top it off word is going around of potential 4 day weeks coming up due to the dire financial situation here. </p>
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<p>On the plus side it has hardened my resolve to find something else and quick!</p> -
<p>Well, I think you made a <strong>good</strong> decision - there is no right or wrong with these things.</p>
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<p>Maintaining an open discourse with all parties puts you in a good place when it comes to closing it off in your own mind. If something like this happens again, you'll be able to approach it with a clear conscience and the knowledge that you can keep it all </p>
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<p>4 day week? Hmmm... might be good to use that time to find some work on the side, or dive into a particular tech stream if you're so inclined.</p>
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<p>You could even approach the decent large company you mentioned originally, and see if they even want a bit of intern work on the side. It might be "free" to them, but it is a chance for you to show your chops, learn a shitload, and perhaps build a bridge that way, pick up a mentor etc.</p> -
<p>If you have a clause in your employment agreement which allows the employer to make deductions from your wages for leaving without giving the appropriate notice, change it. Wage deductions are about the only place an employee can unilaterally change employment agreements.</p>
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<p><a data-ipb='nomediaparse' href='http://employment.govt.nz/er/pay/paymentanddeductions/deductions.asp'>http://employment.govt.nz/er/pay/paymentanddeductions/deductions.asp</a></p>
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<p>Employers can make a deduction from pay if:</p>
<ul><li><br></li><li>the deduction is specifically required by law eg PAYE tax, student loan repayment, child support</li>
<li><br></li><li>the deduction is for a lawful purpose, is reasonable and the employee has agreed or asked for the deduction in writing. ‘Agreed in writing’ includes a general deductions clause in the employment agreement, but an employer must consult with the employee before they make a specific deduction under a general deductions clause. <strong>The employee can vary or withdraw their written consent to a deduction by giving notice in writing at any time</strong>. The employer must then vary or stop the deductions within 2 weeks of receiving the notice or as soon as practicable.</li>
<li><br></li><li>the deduction is to recover an overpayment in limited circumstances</li>
<li><br></li><li>a court directs that a deduction be made.
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<br><br><p>Section 5(2) of the Wages Protection Act 1983 is the relevant legislation - pay a lawyer or get the Community Law Centre to draft you something, and email it to HR at work, and after 2 weeks, the employer no longer has the legal ability to make those deductions. Keep copies of the email(s), and if necessary, take legal action.</p> -
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<p>If you have a clause in your employment agreement which allows the employer to make deductions from your wages for leaving without giving the appropriate notice, change it. Wage deductions are about the only place an employee can unilaterally change employment agreements.</p>
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<p><a data-ipb='nomediaparse' href='http://employment.govt.nz/er/pay/paymentanddeductions/deductions.asp'>http://employment.govt.nz/er/pay/paymentanddeductions/deductions.asp</a></p>
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<br><br><p>Section 5(2) of the Wages Protection Act 1983 is the relevant legislation - pay a lawyer or get the Community Law Centre to draft you something, and email it to HR at work, and after 2 weeks, the employer no longer has the legal ability to make those deductions. Keep copies of the email(s), and if necessary, take legal action.</p>
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<p>That's bloody interesting and could definitely have been a workaround. 4 weeks notice is a bit extreme especially since from what I can tell I'm the only person in the company that isn't on 1-2 weeks. Unfortunately I do need to keep them onside to make life easier but will keep this in mind if other opportunities arise.</p> -
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<p>You would not read about it. I have offered to forego my holiday pay as I have been offered a job in the field I want to be in for a 3rd more money and better overall package and work balance.<br><br>
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<p>I just read about it</p> -
<blockquote class="ipsBlockquote" data-author="dogmeat" data-cid="573590" data-time="1461107963"><p>I just read about it</p></blockquote>
Ha. Its gotten a little chilly in the work place. Current employer is being civil but there's no water cooler talk whatsoever.<br><br><br><br>
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<p>Ha. Its gotten a little chilly in the work place. Current employer is being civil but there's no water cooler talk whatsoever.<br><br><br><br>
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<p>I thought you were a landscaper ? you shouldn't be near a water cooler you should be on the tools.</p> -
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<p>I thought you were a landscaper ? you shouldn't be near a water cooler you should be on the tools.</p>
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<p>I thought he was a porn star. So chilly is no good at all, but agree with you that should be on the tools.</p> -
<p>I thought he was self-employed. Is he schizophrenic perhaps?</p>
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<p>I thought you were a landscaper ? you shouldn't be near a water cooler you should be on the tools.</p>
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<p>I thought he was a porn star. So chilly is no good at all, but agree with you that should be on the tools.</p>
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<p>I thought he was self-employed. Is he schizophrenic perhaps?</p>
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<p>who is Razbra, this random dude on the internet, that we all thought we knew, but clearly know nothing about.</p> -
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<p>who is Razbra, this random dude on the internet, that we all thought we knew, but clearly know nothing about.</p>
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<p>Jeez the truth is right in front of you blokes - clearly, he's an ant eater. Fuck you.</p> -
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<p>Jeez the truth is right in front of you blokes - clearly, he's an ant eater. Fuck you.</p>
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<p>whoa, big image!! </p>
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<p>Jeez the truth is right in front of you blokes - clearly, he's an ant eater. Fuck you.</p>
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<p>..and a porn star!</p> -
Nice. Fern at its best. I started replying to MN5 and then promptly got busy at work. Then now after a few beers Ive come across this fantastical direction the thread has taken...<br><br>
I was going to say "whoa have I been on the fern that long?!"<br><br>
Landscaping was many moons ago. Still on my profile though. My cousins took the business off my hands. <br><br>
I took up with a mate and worked as a buyer and designer for a national but wellington owned business.<br><br>
Took that experience off shore and have been in australia since. Thrown in having briefly taken the operation of my fathers business before he sold up.<br><br>
I've been on the fern since 09. Things have changed and I guess I dont always say what Ive been up to...<br><br>
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Nice. Fern at its best. I started replying to MN5 and then promptly got busy at work. Then now after a few beers Ive come across this fantastical direction the thread has taken...<br><br>
I was going to say "whoa have I been on the fern that long?!"<br><br>
Landscaping was many moons ago. Still on my profile though. My cousins took the business off my hands. <br><br>
I took up with a mate and worked as a buyer and designer for a national but wellington owned business.<br><br>
Took that experience off shore and have been in australia since. Thrown in having briefly taken the operation of my fathers business before he sold up.<br><br>
I've been on the fern since 09. Things have changed and I guess I dont always say what Ive been up to...<br><br>
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Fuck you! You're an Anteater!