All Blacks vs Springboks - Twickenham
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Our weaknesses exposed:
- kicking game flawed, high risk
- high tempo game relies on winning contact
- Jordie Barrett still makes poor decisions
- reserve locks
Scott Barrett unlucky with both yellow cards. Got tackled into halfback. Clean out on ground was penalty.
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@No-Quarter We actually did try and kick a penalty, but Mounga missed a sitter !
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@Steve said in All Blacks vs Springboks - Twickenham:
@akan004 said in All Blacks vs Springboks - Twickenham:
Never seen an ABs team physically dominated like this. Men against boys.
Ive seen it before, many times. But the likes of DC, Cory Jane , Dagg et al, caught their kicks and got us back down the field.
Beaudy and Richie are not doing that for us.
We are under the pump in our own half for a disproportionate amount of time.
Fucking spot on. Never thought I would say this but BB past his sell buy as is ALB !!
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@sparky said in All Blacks vs Springboks - Twickenham:
@Tim Worst of Ryan’s. I’d say the Argentina game in Australia and the third game against Ireland were worse.
Bollocks. There were periods of those games where the forwards went OK. This was 80 minutes of poorly-prepped, poorly coached fermented crap.
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@kiwiinmelb said in All Blacks vs Springboks - Twickenham:
Some of the pre match talk coming out of the ab camp about wanting to make a statement is looking a bit comical now
We absolutely made a statement. Not the right type mind.
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Sam Cane’s underwhelming captaincy is a massive concern. I don’t think he’s strong enough of a leader to take us to the World Cup.
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@Bovidae said in All Blacks vs Springboks - Twickenham:
I don't know what was more painful. The AB performance, the ref, or the commentators I had to listen to.
Foster and Ryan have got a huge reality check.
I had the French commentators. “Humiliés” “détruits” “écrasés”.
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@BerhamporeNinja said in All Blacks vs Springboks - Twickenham:
Well done SA!, along w the loss we're gonna take alot from that game! Roigard our no.2, ALB is still trash,Newell is not good enough, Degroot is too slow around field and still unfit to be effective at scrum time, Telea's a definite starter
I thought Vaa'i went OK as well. Pretty shit performance but probably still better than the others
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@BerhamporeNinja said in All Blacks vs Springboks - Twickenham:
Well done SA!, along w the loss we're gonna take alot from that game! Roigard our no.2, ALB is still trash,Newell is not good enough, Degroot is too slow around field and still unfit to be effective at scrum time, Telea's a definite starter
I'm intrigued you watched the game, and one of the big things you took out of it was de Groot isn't the answer? The scrum largely held whilst he was on, but once he departed Williams got wrecked. He also carried much better than Williams.
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@frugby said in All Blacks vs Springboks - Twickenham:
@BerhamporeNinja said in All Blacks vs Springboks - Twickenham:
Well done SA!, along w the loss we're gonna take alot from that game! Roigard our no.2, ALB is still trash,Newell is not good enough, Degroot is too slow around field and still unfit to be effective at scrum time, Telea's a definite starter
I'm intrigued you watched the game, and one of the big things you took out of it was de Groot isn't the answer? The scrum largely held whilst he was on, but once he departed Williams got wrecked. He also carried much better than Williams.
De Groot fine. Williams fine. Locks?
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@akan004 said in All Blacks vs Springboks - Twickenham:
@Steve said in All Blacks vs Springboks - Twickenham:
Ive seen it before, many times.
Really? When? Never to this degree imo.
South Africa regularly monstered us in that fashion. Especially in the ELV days.
But we would stay in the game. Get down their end. Kick our pens.
The amount of games we won by less than a score.
Wee can't do that if we are in our own 22 for the whole match.
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@kev said in All Blacks vs Springboks - Twickenham:
@frugby said in All Blacks vs Springboks - Twickenham:
@BerhamporeNinja said in All Blacks vs Springboks - Twickenham:
Well done SA!, along w the loss we're gonna take alot from that game! Roigard our no.2, ALB is still trash,Newell is not good enough, Degroot is too slow around field and still unfit to be effective at scrum time, Telea's a definite starter
I'm intrigued you watched the game, and one of the big things you took out of it was de Groot isn't the answer? The scrum largely held whilst he was on, but once he departed Williams got wrecked. He also carried much better than Williams.
De Groot fine. Williams fine. Locks?
Locks weren't good at all, and I think that should be taken into account when saying our scrum got destroyed. I wouldn't mark it against Williams, more so a praise of de Groot.
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All part of the plan to lose the favourites tag
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@KiwiMurph said in All Blacks vs Springboks - Twickenham:
It won't happen now unless injuries occur but there's a serious argument to put DMac at 15. DMac has a better boot than Beauden and is much quicker.
@Canes4life said in All Blacks vs Springboks - Twickenham:
Sam Cane’s underwhelming captaincy is a massive concern. I don’t think he’s strong enough of a leader to take us to the World Cup.
Fellas, a bit of calm aye? Both have been very good this year, one game where everything went wrong shouldn't change that, particularly with Barrett. McKenzie would have been just as crap playing behind that beaten pack.
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@Steve said in All Blacks vs Springboks - Twickenham:
@akan004 said in All Blacks vs Springboks - Twickenham:
@Steve said in All Blacks vs Springboks - Twickenham:
Ive seen it before, many times.
Really? When? Never to this degree imo.
South Africa regularly monstered us in that fashion. Especially in the ELV days.
But we would stay in the game. Get down their end. Kick our pens.
The amount of games we won by less than a score.
Wee can't do that if we are in our own 22 for the whole match.
The press got excited by our kicking game beating the Boks. Our exits are shit. Gifting position. It’s a bullshit strategy kicking short when you are under pressure.
