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    The Boland All Blacks supporters disappeared. Not a single soul on a Saturday morning.

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    @pakman what are your thoughts on the line-out penalties? I thought they adjusted. The first one was clear as day but after that it was like the ABs had to give them 5ms space. Then it all just compounded.

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    @sparky said in All Blacks vs Springboks - Twickenham:

    @NTA I see your Scooter Barrett and raise you to Ali Williams…..

    Ha, maybe not so dumb...

    Entertainment

    Lock and loaded: Former All Black finds love with billionaire

    Lock and loaded: Former All Black finds love with billionaire

    The former All Black has been seeing ZURU co-owner Anna Mowbray for around six months.

    Really depressing second half (well done Springboks), but glad the pretense has been stripped bare before the cup. If we have any chance, it must be through the forward platform. However, weak/dumb players, deficient techniques or discipline, bad coaching. I really hope they can find a way to win the Cup, but it's unlikely....I am expecting Ireland or France to be victorious.

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    @Joans-Town-Jones said in All Blacks vs Springboks - Twickenham:

    @antipodean enlighten us, genius, what was worse than that? The ABs were almost blanked.

    Christ you say that like South Africa haven't blanked us before. As has Wales, Australia, France and England.

    Athletic Park has been home to some average performances over the years, but I'm talking about the time an invitational XV flogged the All Blacks in Penrith. Not even a club side and they managed to score 40 points three decades ago http://stats.allblacks.com/asp/teamsheet.asp?MT_ID=1956

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    Rewatched the game sober.

    Somebody said this was a reverse of Mt Smart and I fully agree. At Mt Smart the All Blacks came out of the gate like their hair was on fire and instead of standing up to the onslaught, the boks kept making mistakes to keep the All Black momentum going. In this game the All Blacks just couldn't get out of their own way. The penalties they were giving away were just braindead.

    In terms of the big games coming up I think Esterhuizen has played himself into the first team. The bench frontrow made a huge statement - even in the 10min that it was seven on seven they were destroying their opposites and looks very good going into world cup with a scrum that can win penalties from minute one through to the 80th.

    As good as the pack was, De Klerk was pretty terrible, bad option taking, slow, couple of handling errors.

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    @Joans-Town-Jones said in All Blacks vs Springboks - Twickenham:

    @pakman what are your thoughts on the line-out penalties? I thought they adjusted. The first one was clear as day but after that it was like the ABs had to give them 5ms space. Then it all just compounded.

    I had great seats but that was hard to see from where we were. Assumed game on Prime in UK so having to record replay on Sky before I'll be able to give a view.

    Interesting from catching a little of later on that AB scrum gained a penalty when Newell first replaced Lomax.
    Suspect problems were down to having to pack a lightish flanker at lock in first half.
    And in second Vaa'i/Lord/Williams changes were clearly retrograde, exacerbated by being a flanker down.

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    @SidBarret The bench front row are almost as wide as they are long!

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    12 penalties against in the first 10 minutes.

    Could have done with Carley against France in 2007 where we didn't get a penalty for the last 50 minutes and only 2 in total.

    #neverforgiveandneverforget

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    A Saturday morning press conference with Foz and more handling of the ball than his side did for 80 minutes yesterday.

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    Tyrell Lomax, Brodie Retallick and Shannon Frizell all unlikely to be fit to be fit to play France but will take part in the tournament.

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    If it is cut to the muscle, you'd really need a month or more to heal for a prop, wouldn't you? The leg muscles would be unbalanced while they heal, I would have thought, a critical issue for a prop.

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    @nostrildamus He won’t be able to train until the stitches are out and a few days afterwards. I would have thought it’s three weeks before he can play again at best.

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    @sparky said in All Blacks vs Springboks - Twickenham:

    @nostrildamus He won’t be able to train until the stitches are out and a few days afterwards. I would have thought it’s three weeks before he can play again at best.

    No real rush before Italy game.

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    I can visualise some unsung hero changing the narrative by luck rather than design, thrust into the piece due to injury or suspension. A Roigard or DMAC type getting loads of minutes due to unforeseen circumstances.

    I think the Allblacks are going to belt some big team, either France up first or SA/IRE in the quarters, but can't see them putting it together over consecutive weeks.

    Its going to be ref heavy, TMO heavy, score board ticking in 3's type Rugby.

    Playing rippa rugby in your own 22 in Autumn on NH pitches doesn't look like its going to work 6 weeks in a row.

    The team is a raking punt light both at 10 and 15.

    No pressure valve being offered from 9 either bar the potential of Roigards left boot off the bench.

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    @Steve said in All Blacks vs Springboks - Twickenham:

    I can visualise some unsung hero changing the narrative by luck rather than design, thrust into the piece due to injury or suspension. A Roigard or DMAC type getting loads of minutes due to unforeseen circumstances.

    I think the Allblacks are going to belt some big team, either France up first or SA/IRE in the quarters, but can't see them putting it together over consecutive weeks.

    Its going to be ref heavy, TMO heavy, score board ticking in 3's type Rugby.

    Playing rippa rugby in your own 22 in Autumn on NH pitches doesn't look like its going to work 6 weeks in a row.

    The team is a raking punt light both at 10 and 15.

    No pressure valve being offered from 9 either bar the potential of Roigards left boot off the bench.

    They only have to play really well three times: first match, quarters and final. But will want to be coming to boil around Italy match.

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    @pakman said in All Blacks vs Springboks - Twickenham:

    @Steve said in All Blacks vs Springboks - Twickenham:

    I can visualise some unsung hero changing the narrative by luck rather than design, thrust into the piece due to injury or suspension. A Roigard or DMAC type getting loads of minutes due to unforeseen circumstances.

    I think the Allblacks are going to belt some big team, either France up first or SA/IRE in the quarters, but can't see them putting it together over consecutive weeks.

    Its going to be ref heavy, TMO heavy, score board ticking in 3's type Rugby.

    Playing rippa rugby in your own 22 in Autumn on NH pitches doesn't look like its going to work 6 weeks in a row.

    The team is a raking punt light both at 10 and 15.

    No pressure valve being offered from 9 either bar the potential of Roigards left boot off the bench.

    They only have to play really well three times: first match, quarters and final. But will want to be coming to boil around Italy match.

    SF a given then?

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    @MiketheSnow said in All Blacks vs Springboks - Twickenham:

    @pakman said in All Blacks vs Springboks - Twickenham:

    @Steve said in All Blacks vs Springboks - Twickenham:

    I can visualise some unsung hero changing the narrative by luck rather than design, thrust into the piece due to injury or suspension. A Roigard or DMAC type getting loads of minutes due to unforeseen circumstances.

    I think the Allblacks are going to belt some big team, either France up first or SA/IRE in the quarters, but can't see them putting it together over consecutive weeks.

    Its going to be ref heavy, TMO heavy, score board ticking in 3's type Rugby.

    Playing rippa rugby in your own 22 in Autumn on NH pitches doesn't look like its going to work 6 weeks in a row.

    The team is a raking punt light both at 10 and 15.

    No pressure valve being offered from 9 either bar the potential of Roigards left boot off the bench.

    They only have to play really well three times: first match, quarters and final. But will want to be coming to boil around Italy match.

    SF a given then?

    Easy, same as the QF in 2007

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    @sparky said in All Blacks vs Springboks - Twickenham:

    A Saturday morning press conference with Foz and more handling of the ball than his side did for 80 minutes yesterday.

    Well there you go, he hinted at not changing the squad. So one of the wingers gets a free holiday in France while we battle injury and fatigue in the loose forwards and locks. We have a genius coach here, QF exit coming up.

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    I am actually wondering if heads were not in right place yesterday? I actually said to Mrs just before game I was worried with talk, it sounded like they were trying to talk themselves into it being a must win game, and not quite coming off to me. I not suggesting in anyway taking away how well Boks played , or how poor ABs seemed to be, just a thought I had.

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    @reprobate said in All Blacks vs Springboks - Twickenham:

    @MiketheSnow No, it is not just you. If you followed super rugby this year you would have seen the Chiefs top the table before losing the final to the Crusaders by playing a long territorial kicking game all season with McKenzie and Stevenson.
    Our coaching / tactics are appalling.

    Vs Blues who crashed and burned again

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