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  • gt12G Offline
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    #1078

    Only saw the first half but based on that the first thing I would do is hire Dan Carter as our 10 coach and his first role would be to talk Dmac through every decision he made. This test could be defining if he learned from it, but will he?

    He doesnโ€™t need to try to make something happen to get us to score fast points, heโ€™s at 10, not 15.

    His role is to get us territory and get us in pattern - that chip kick when we turned them over, are down by two tries and finally have some territory, thatโ€™s where you hold it and put us in pattern. Him immediately chipping it away was the most unforgivable part of today, it was nothing to do with bad service or having a bad day with the boot, it highlighted that what he has (mostly) learned at super level has not transferred to the test arena.

    I still have hope for him but he needs a huge kick in the ass.

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    @No-Quarter said in All Blacks v Australia - Bledisloe II:

    Jordan is a great player but better suited to wing at this level.

    Sacrilege

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    @frugby said in All Blacks v Australia - Bledisloe II:

    It is funny how things look different when you are at the game... thought McKenzie was shocking but Christie quite good. Mo'unga changed the game when he came on for mine... Smith sharp, but as I say, felt Christie was actually quite good. Finau was rubbish in the first half, but really grew into it.

    I thought Finlay went alright in this game, as well. A bit surprised - well, not really - to see him getting the razz here. ๐Ÿ™‚

    Not a good game to be playing in the first half if you were someone on the fringe.

    Ofa and Fletch made a significant difference compared to Nepo and Big Tamaiti. If Joe Moody is fit - I think Tamaiti gives up his seat on the plane.

    Sami T. had a bit of a mare - lost ground if he hoped to push Codie out of starting, but won't have lost his place to Coles.

    I thought Vaa'i went alright - didn't hurt his chances.

    Finau grew into the game and finished strongly - did enough to get on the plane IMO.

    Ennor went well and didn't hurt his chances except getting broken. Dallas carried nicely. I still think Havili will take the fourth midfield slot and ALB didn't play well enough to convince me he's a better second five than Dave.

    Big Leicester took his chance. Carried strongly throughout, including in the last couple of minutes - slightly tarnished by losing the ball instead of scoring, but I think he probably did enough to take the fourth wing spot ahead of Narawa.

    Stevenson had a nervy start, but got better as the game went on. Don't think he did enough to get on the plane, but something to build on.

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  • BonesB Online
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    @Chris-B said in All Blacks v Australia - Bledisloe II:

    but I think he probably did enough to take the fourth wing spot ahead of Narawa

    Maybe ahead of Clarke, but definitely not Narawa.

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    @Chris-B said in All Blacks v Australia - Bledisloe II:

    I thought Finlay went alright in this game, as well. A bit surprised - well, not really - to see him getting the razz here.

    About as surprising as you reckoning he went alright ๐Ÿ˜‰

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    was at game one thing about LF was how slow he looked .

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  • Chris B.C Offline
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    @KiwiMurph said in All Blacks v Australia - Bledisloe II:

    @Chris-B said in All Blacks v Australia - Bledisloe II:

    I thought Finlay went alright in this game, as well. A bit surprised - well, not really - to see him getting the razz here.

    About as surprising as you reckoning he went alright ๐Ÿ˜‰

    You clearly haven't followed my comments on Finlay. ๐Ÿ™‚

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  • boobooB Offline
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    @Steve said in All Blacks v Australia - Bledisloe II:

    Every other Allblack winger has been mustard this year so far. Doesn't bode well

    Is mustard good or bad?

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    Missed the first 30 minutes but saw enough to see Christie was crap, DMac was struggling and much of the team pretty shit. Only good thing I saw was a lack of collective panic. Second half was a different team with Smith & Mo'unga on. Satisfying win in the end - if only because Comical Eddie was giving his phone GBH.

    Finau and Leicester booked their tickets as did Newell & Ennor. Thought Ofa was great but unconvinced by Va'ii. McLeod did OK and thought ALB was really good in the second half. Unsure about WJ at 15 on this performance against the big boys and think he's more value on the wing.

    Wouldn't surprise me if Christie doesn't make the cut if Foster & co can only use him as a last 20 specialist. He's gone backwards since his debut for me - despite a decent game against the Boks. Webber may get the call.

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    @Chris-B said in All Blacks v Australia - Bledisloe II:

    I thought Finlay went alright in this game, as well. A bit surprised - well, not really - to see him getting the razz here.

    I think people finally saw what I've been complaining about for ages. His speed to rucks is slow, his decision making is poor and slow, his passing is poor and slow. If he's considered the next best to Aaron, then that's the clear Achilles heel in the squad.

    Mackenzie's effort has to be marked against the service he received, from a poor forwards effort in the first half, compounded by Christie. But his options and execution were woeful.

    Players that made a case for RWC selection included Leicester. Ennor impressed with his defensive accuracy and good carrying. Finau got better and better as the game progressed. He also secured some quality lineout ball which makes him a valuable second option to Frizzel. Newel booked a seat on the bus too.

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    @Steve said in All Blacks v Australia - Bledisloe II:

    Samipeni with the hard shoulder in that carry.

    Did I miss something about Finau's hard shoulder?

    Keeps coming up

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    @antipodean said in All Blacks v Australia - Bledisloe II:

    @Chris-B said in All Blacks v Australia - Bledisloe II:

    I thought Finlay went alright in this game, as well. A bit surprised - well, not really - to see him getting the razz here.

    I think people finally saw what I've been complaining about for ages. His speed to rucks is slow, his decision making is poor and slow, his passing is poor and slow. If he's considered the next best to Aaron, then that's the clear Achilles heel in the squad.

    My main criticism of Finlay is his dithering at the ruck while he makes up his mind what he's going to do. I didn't see much of that today - he seemed to arrive and shift the ball.

    I'll have a re-watch because I wasn't closely watching the Finlay-DMac combo.

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    @Machpants said in All Blacks v Australia - Bledisloe II:

    Lol they've lost the tee

    What's the rule there?

    60 secs from the tee?

    Or 60 secs from signalling the shot?

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  • boobooB Offline
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    @Steve said in All Blacks v Australia - Bledisloe II:

    Vaii makes no yards in contact.

    Yeah. Shame.lijed him early on.

    Lord is the guy going forward.

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  • BonesB Online
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    @booboo said in All Blacks v Australia - Bledisloe II:

    Did I miss something about Finau's hard shoulder?

    Hard to miss.

    https://fb.watch/mdO-MxeAEx/

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    @booboo said in All Blacks v Australia - Bledisloe II:

    Good result from 3-17.

    Should have won by more though.

    Blew plenty of points.

    Been thinking about this.

    They should have won because they should have been way further in front.

    We should have won by more because we blew about three tries.

    Rugby.

    Is good.

    (Especially when we win.)

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    Thought Cane was a bit off the pace tonight, even fell off a few tackles. Ardie picked up the slack and was on fire.

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  • mariner4lifeM Offline
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    Fuck that was a pretty fun game aye?

    Wallabies later but us

    Shit we didn't do a lot wrong in the first half but we got down early. Wallabies were awesome and we couldn't do much
    They got some sweet whistle and some sweet bounce and we were down by a bit without really doing much wrong
    But, without Ardie saving that try we lose that game
    Then we wrestled control back and won the 2nd half

    The plan tonight was obviously fucking loose compared to last week where we barely fired a shot, and that made some guys look worse than they should

    Then we switched and played direct and fucking dominated them, even without the points

    Huge international season, and you couldn't ask for better in to a world cup

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  • BerniesCornerB Offline
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    Thank you to Quade at the end by Richie McCaw's ghost.

    Impressed with Stephenson, Finau . Obviously Finau has big upside.
    Savea and Whitelock super fantastic at times.
    Smith master.

    Quite a big gap between AB first and second team in many positions.
    We got lucky a few times I thought.

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  • mariner4lifeM Offline
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    For the wallabies

    That first half was awesome. If that's the standard you can set your RWC pool is cooked and a semi is odds-on

    Valetini was probably the 2nd best player on the field. The deliberate placement to speed the ruck was opening holes everywhere. On another day that's 3 first half tries

    There was some favourable whistle in the first half hour, but who gives a shit you earned it

    2nd half is the growth area and that's on Eddie.

    Bell is a gun, Valetini is a gun, korobeti is gun. Work with it

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