AB RWC Squad
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@MN5 said in AB RWC Squad predictions:
Retallick was just doing a WWE style promo, No way is Lord the heaviest.
Wiki has him at 119kg with BBBR at 124kg
All Blacks.com has them at 104kg and 123kg respectively.
(Slow day)
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@pakman said in AB RWC Squad predictions:
you read what the AB LHs say Nepo is highest rated TH
That's quite the snub to Lomax then! Where were they saying that?
It's great that AB LHs rate him, but I would just like to see this rating translate to something on the field - and I'd like to see that a lot more often than 20 minutes or so at the end of an occasional test where we're already on top.
I'm genuinely interested in being able to see just what him supposedly being a great scrummager translates to on the field, as like with Franks at the end of his career I don't feel like the difference over others is noticeable.
And we can blame refs all we want, but they're probably the most important ones to have to notice! If they don't think he's very good, that's more important than what I think.
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@sparky As earlier, I can't see them taking only five props given you need four in every match day team. Leaves you little option to carry the top guys if they sustain short term injuries, since you can't afford someone else to go down in the warm-ups.
Marc Hinton has the same team as me, except he's bracketed Narawa and Leicester - a fair call but not a bold call.
Brodie's injury might require a re-think depending on how long he's out for.
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I see some naming Blackadder
I thought he was cooked ?
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@kiwiinmelb No, just added a few more weeks to his recovery time. Could be back in time (but big questions about match fitness, obviously).
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taking Blackadder would be up there with the all-time dumb moves. I don't even see where he fits in teh side, let alone not having played a minute of code in months.
Havili is the same. Why the fuck are they taking guys to a tournament that have been long-term broken?
And surely after the weekend Cristie gets punted in to the sun
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@Stargazer said in AB RWC Squad predictions:
@kiwiinmelb No, just added a few more weeks to his recovery time. Could be back in time (but big questions about match fitness, obviously).
Yeah I guess we got to be careful taking underdone forwards when we have match hardened options, but the selectors will know more than us on his condition
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@mariner4life if a player wasn’t in or around the AB side this weekend (playing, training or even a Foodbill) or playing NPC, then they surely aren’t going.
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@mariner4life said in AB RWC Squad predictions:
taking Blackadder would be up there with the all-time dumb moves. I don't even see where he fits in teh side, let alone not having played a minute of code in months.
Havili is the same. Why the fuck are they taking guys to a tournament that have been long-term broken?
And surely after the weekend Cristie gets punted in to the sun
I actually see him fully fit as a bench option with his utility value and energy, but not if he’s underdone
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@ACT-Crusader said in AB RWC Squad predictions:
@mariner4life if a player wasn’t in or around the AB side this weekend (playing, training or even a Foodbill) or playing NPC, then they surely aren’t going.
i would like to thikn so
i wonder if Retallick's status will force a late re-think?
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@kiwiinmelb said in AB RWC Squad predictions:
@mariner4life said in AB RWC Squad predictions:
taking Blackadder would be up there with the all-time dumb moves. I don't even see where he fits in teh side, let alone not having played a minute of code in months.
Havili is the same. Why the fuck are they taking guys to a tournament that have been long-term broken?
And surely after the weekend Cristie gets punted in to the sun
I actually see him fully fit as a bench option with his utility value and energy, but not if he’s underdone
over Dalton?
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@kiwiinmelb said in AB RWC Squad predictions:
@mariner4life said in AB RWC Squad predictions:
taking Blackadder would be up there with the all-time dumb moves. I don't even see where he fits in teh side, let alone not having played a minute of code in months.
Havili is the same. Why the fuck are they taking guys to a tournament that have been long-term broken?
And surely after the weekend Cristie gets punted in to the sun
I actually see him fully fit as a bench option with his utility value and energy, but not if he’s underdone
When was the last time he played? When was the last time he stood out apart from "energy"? I want players that have impacts.
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@mariner4life said in AB RWC Squad predictions:
And surely after the weekend Cristie gets punted in to the sun
I'm resigned to the fact he's going. There's no way short of injury that they'd suddenly select a bloke that's not been in the squad forever over him.
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@mariner4life said in AB RWC Squad predictions:
@kiwiinmelb said in AB RWC Squad predictions:
@mariner4life said in AB RWC Squad predictions:
taking Blackadder would be up there with the all-time dumb moves. I don't even see where he fits in teh side, let alone not having played a minute of code in months.
Havili is the same. Why the fuck are they taking guys to a tournament that have been long-term broken?
And surely after the weekend Cristie gets punted in to the sun
I actually see him fully fit as a bench option with his utility value and energy, but not if he’s underdone
over Dalton?
Not now , at his best he could challenge that maybe , but it’s important we go in with match hardened forwards, particularly with Brodie already in cotton wool , let’s hit the ground running .
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@mariner4life said in AB RWC Squad predictions:
taking Blackadder would be up there with the all-time dumb moves. I don't even see where he fits in teh side, let alone not having played a minute of code in months.
Havili is the same. Why the fuck are they taking guys to a tournament that have been long-term broken?
And surely after the weekend Cristie gets punted in to the sun
Agree on Blackadder - but, I'll be amazed if they pick him.
Havili has only been out for a couple of months max and was playing well before he got injured. He can fit in three or four more games before the tournament starts - it's a non-issue. He's "figured prominently"(thanks Hinton) in AB teams for the past two years. I'll be amazed if he misses out.
I haven't re-watched the first 10 minutes of Saturday's game - but after that, Christie was one of our best. Passing was decisive and accurate. Mind you, he didn't have to make that many, because we barely strung together three phases before someone fucked up. He'll be sitting in Seat 1B next to Nuggie!
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@antipodean said in AB RWC Squad predictions:
@mariner4life said in AB RWC Squad predictions:
And surely after the weekend Cristie gets punted in to the sun
I'm resigned to the fact he's going. There's no way short of injury that they'd suddenly select a bloke that's not been in the squad forever over him.
If roigard is their preferred bench option.
I see more value in picking Weber to partner dmac in pool games .
But like you say do they wind that back ?
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@Chris-B said in AB RWC Squad predictions:
Havili has only been out for a couple of months max and was playing well before he got injured. He can fit in three or four more games before the tournament starts - it's a non-issue. He's "figured prominently"(thanks Hinton) in AB teams for the past two years. I'll be amazed if he misses out.
me too.
i guess, for me he is one of the last vestiges of the "old guard" ABs that just weren't as good as the team is now. If we are wedded to RM and BB, then a 3rd playmaker in the backline makes no sense.
But i guess Ennor's injury means we are forced to take him as there are literally no other AB experienced midfielders available.
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@mariner4life said in AB RWC Squad predictions:
@Chris-B said in AB RWC Squad predictions:
Havili has only been out for a couple of months max and was playing well before he got injured. He can fit in three or four more games before the tournament starts - it's a non-issue. He's "figured prominently"(thanks Hinton) in AB teams for the past two years. I'll be amazed if he misses out.
me too.
i guess, for me he is one of the last vestiges of the "old guard" ABs that just weren't as good as the team is now. If we are wedded to RM and BB, then a 3rd playmaker in the backline makes no sense.
But i guess Ennor's injury means we are forced to take him as there are literally no other AB experienced midfielders available.
This.
He might have been on the edge of the squad, but he is now pretty firmly locked in as I see it.
It might strengthen the case for LF over Clarke as well, so he can have a run at 13 in a pool game.
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@kiwiinmelb said in AB RWC Squad predictions:
@antipodean said in AB RWC Squad predictions:
@mariner4life said in AB RWC Squad predictions:
And surely after the weekend Cristie gets punted in to the sun
I'm resigned to the fact he's going. There's no way short of injury that they'd suddenly select a bloke that's not been in the squad forever over him.
If roigard is their preferred bench option.
I see more value in picking Weber to partner dmac in pool games .
But like you say do they wind that back ?
I'd prefer it. Goldie said on the Breakdown the drawback was Weber plays too much like Smith. I'm fucked if I can see a problem with that considering our entire ability to play requires fast, accurate ball from the ruck.
If they want something slightly different, that's Roigard.
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@antipodean said in AB RWC Squad predictions:
@kiwiinmelb said in AB RWC Squad predictions:
@antipodean said in AB RWC Squad predictions:
@mariner4life said in AB RWC Squad predictions:
And surely after the weekend Cristie gets punted in to the sun
I'm resigned to the fact he's going. There's no way short of injury that they'd suddenly select a bloke that's not been in the squad forever over him.
If roigard is their preferred bench option.
I see more value in picking Weber to partner dmac in pool games .
But like you say do they wind that back ?
I'd prefer it. Goldie said on the Breakdown the drawback was Weber plays too much like Smith. I'm fucked if I can see a problem with that considering our entire ability to play requires fast, accurate ball from the ruck.
If they want something slightly different, that's Roigard.
I would have thought option 3 is best to be a bit like smith in case he is unavailable ?
