Australia v All Blacks - Bled I
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@ACT-Crusader said in Australia v All Blacks - Bled I:
@kiwiinmelb said in Australia v All Blacks - Bled I:
@NTA said in Australia v All Blacks - Bled I:
@kiwiinmelb said in Australia v All Blacks - Bled I:
If I was Eddie , I’d be trying to take advantage that the abs may just be a tad complacent after being 2-0 up against a team that is 0-2 , not firing warning shots 😁
It is about media attention. Like Cheika, he wants to keep the spotlight on his bullshit rather than the performances.
Yeah get that but I remember before the 2011 wc semi , and some Aussie players , kearns etc taking shots at Nz’s choking etc .
And nick Farjones saying , I think it’s a big mistake before playing Nz giving them motivation,our best victories have come from taking them by surprise against the odds . I always believe it’s best to not poke the bear and try and take them by surprise in the game itself
I think all of that talk has very little to do with what goes on out on the park. There may be a momentary thought of it perhaps during the anthems or the haka, but then the players just settle into their work. They are not thinking about what Eddie (or anyone else for that matter said) almost two weeks out from the match.
Given the break it’s about keeping a waning Oz fan base interested with some coverage.
Yep seems the tickets maybe not selling great, seems the cut price ones alreadt released.
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@chimoaus said in Australia v All Blacks - Bled I:
Are there any other good examples of players making the squad but never actually getting capped? Curious to know who missed out over the years?
Stevenson never made the squad, he was cover, which is different. However, it indeed happens with full squad members not getting a run as the coaches want them in for a looksie.
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@ACT-Crusader said in Australia v All Blacks - Bled I:
@kiwiinmelb said in Australia v All Blacks - Bled I:
@NTA said in Australia v All Blacks - Bled I:
@kiwiinmelb said in Australia v All Blacks - Bled I:
If I was Eddie , I’d be trying to take advantage that the abs may just be a tad complacent after being 2-0 up against a team that is 0-2 , not firing warning shots 😁
It is about media attention. Like Cheika, he wants to keep the spotlight on his bullshit rather than the performances.
Yeah get that but I remember before the 2011 wc semi , and some Aussie players , kearns etc taking shots at Nz’s choking etc .
And nick Farjones saying , I think it’s a big mistake before playing Nz giving them motivation,our best victories have come from taking them by surprise against the odds . I always believe it’s best to not poke the bear and try and take them by surprise in the game itself
I think all of that talk has very little to do with what goes on out on the park. There may be a momentary thought of it perhaps during the anthems or the haka, but then the players just settle into their work. They are not thinking about what Eddie (or anyone else for that matter said) almost two weeks out from the match.
Given the break it’s about keeping a waning Oz fan base interested with some coverage.
it wont be the difference between winning and losing , but I think little things can all add up to add extra focus to the group during the week as you are preparing
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@chimoaus said in Australia v All Blacks - Bled I:
Are there any other good examples of players making the squad but never actually getting capped? Curious to know who missed out over the years?
Strange was named in the AB squad in 2020 but had to pull out due to injury. He hasn't been selected since. There are a number of injury replacements who haven't been capped in recent years. Kirifi is one example.
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@canefan said in Australia v All Blacks - Bled I:
@MajorPom said in Australia v All Blacks - Bled I:
Probably. Australia are one of those teams that if we are up by 48 at half time, I'll still be slightly concerned.
I'll be more concerned if they come out all fire and brimstone at the start, and get ahead of us. The rise when they play us, and their backs are against the wall
Yep.
Like that time in Dunedin when we were 17-0 up after 20 and got run down because we're simply not good enough.
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@Dan54 said in Australia v All Blacks - Bled I:
@ACT-Crusader said in Australia v All Blacks - Bled I:
@kiwiinmelb said in Australia v All Blacks - Bled I:
@NTA said in Australia v All Blacks - Bled I:
@kiwiinmelb said in Australia v All Blacks - Bled I:
If I was Eddie , I’d be trying to take advantage that the abs may just be a tad complacent after being 2-0 up against a team that is 0-2 , not firing warning shots 😁
It is about media attention. Like Cheika, he wants to keep the spotlight on his bullshit rather than the performances.
Yeah get that but I remember before the 2011 wc semi , and some Aussie players , kearns etc taking shots at Nz’s choking etc .
And nick Farjones saying , I think it’s a big mistake before playing Nz giving them motivation,our best victories have come from taking them by surprise against the odds . I always believe it’s best to not poke the bear and try and take them by surprise in the game itself
I think all of that talk has very little to do with what goes on out on the park. There may be a momentary thought of it perhaps during the anthems or the haka, but then the players just settle into their work. They are not thinking about what Eddie (or anyone else for that matter said) almost two weeks out from the match.
Given the break it’s about keeping a waning Oz fan base interested with some coverage.
Yep seems the tickets maybe not selling great, seems the cut price ones alreadt released.
Quelle surprise.
Women's World Cup about to start. Ashes on. Limited money to spend.
And the fuckwits put it on at the 'G. AAMI Park would have been more like the crowd size, mostly dressed in black.
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Players who haven't been involved yet :
Newell, Finau, Blackadder, Jacobson, Roigard, McLeod, ALB, LF, Stephenson. We might see a few of them on the team sheet. I expect the likes of Lomax, Scooter and Cane, who have had a big workload this year, to miss the selection.
Possible team :De Groot
Coles
Laulala
Lord
Whitelock
Vai'i (he played 6 when he came in against the Boss)
DP
Jacobson
Smith
DMac
LF (if fit)
ALB
Ennor
Narawa
BBSub : ST, Ofa T, Williams or Newell if fit, Retallick, Savea, Roigard, Mo'unga, McLeod.
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@NTA said in Australia v All Blacks - Bled I:
@canefan said in Australia v All Blacks - Bled I:
@MajorPom said in Australia v All Blacks - Bled I:
Probably. Australia are one of those teams that if we are up by 48 at half time, I'll still be slightly concerned.
I'll be more concerned if they come out all fire and brimstone at the start, and get ahead of us. The rise when they play us, and their backs are against the wall
Yep.
Like that time in Dunedin when we were 17-0 up after 20 and got run down because we're simply not good enough.
We are the better team. But if we don't focus on our task we could get a shock
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@Bovidae said in Australia v All Blacks - Bled I:
@chimoaus said in Australia v All Blacks - Bled I:
Are there any other good examples of players making the squad but never actually getting capped? Curious to know who missed out over the years?
Strange was named in the AB squad in 2020 but had to pull out due to injury. He hasn't been selected since. There are a number of injury replacements who haven't been capped in recent years. Kirifi is one example.
There were a number of interesting selections that year, guys who haven't looked like getting back in since.
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@African-Monkey But they (Strange, Kirifi etc) aren't that far off, considering they've been selected for the ABs XV. The exception is PU-J, who's been overtaken by Proctor.
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@Stargazer said in Australia v All Blacks - Bled I:
@African-Monkey But they (Strange, Kirifi etc) aren't that far off, considering they've been selected for the ABs XV. The exception is PU-J, who's been overtaken by Proctor.
Another one was that Fijian forward that played a few minutes and now he's off to France(?)
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@NTA said in Australia v All Blacks - Bled I:
@Dan54 said in Australia v All Blacks - Bled I:
@ACT-Crusader said in Australia v All Blacks - Bled I:
@kiwiinmelb said in Australia v All Blacks - Bled I:
@NTA said in Australia v All Blacks - Bled I:
@kiwiinmelb said in Australia v All Blacks - Bled I:
If I was Eddie , I’d be trying to take advantage that the abs may just be a tad complacent after being 2-0 up against a team that is 0-2 , not firing warning shots 😁
It is about media attention. Like Cheika, he wants to keep the spotlight on his bullshit rather than the performances.
Yeah get that but I remember before the 2011 wc semi , and some Aussie players , kearns etc taking shots at Nz’s choking etc .
And nick Farjones saying , I think it’s a big mistake before playing Nz giving them motivation,our best victories have come from taking them by surprise against the odds . I always believe it’s best to not poke the bear and try and take them by surprise in the game itself
I think all of that talk has very little to do with what goes on out on the park. There may be a momentary thought of it perhaps during the anthems or the haka, but then the players just settle into their work. They are not thinking about what Eddie (or anyone else for that matter said) almost two weeks out from the match.
Given the break it’s about keeping a waning Oz fan base interested with some coverage.
Yep seems the tickets maybe not selling great, seems the cut price ones alreadt released.
Quelle surprise.
Women's World Cup about to start. Ashes on. Limited money to spend.
And the fuckwits put it on at the 'G. AAMI Park would have been more like the crowd size, mostly dressed in black.
They got 55k at Marvel last year. When you have 2 home games this year to make revenue it's pretty hard to turn around and put it at AAMI with 30k capacity when you can probably get at least 55k again.
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@canefan said in Australia v All Blacks - Bled I:
@Stargazer said in Australia v All Blacks - Bled I:
@African-Monkey But they (Strange, Kirifi etc) aren't that far off, considering they've been selected for the ABs XV. The exception is PU-J, who's been overtaken by Proctor.
Another one was that Fijian forward that played a few minutes and now he's off to France(?)
He looks about 40 so surely he's about to retire
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Heard an interview with knuckles Connelly earlier this morning on the radio . I don’t know if he has any history with Eddie jones ( he wasn’t complimentary) but he was paying out on the decision to get rid of dave Rennie and bring in Eddie , thinks they are worse off .
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@kiwiinmelb said in Australia v All Blacks - Bled I:
Heard an interview with knuckles Connelly earlier this morning on the radio . I don’t know if he has any history with Eddie jones ( he wasn’t complimentary) but he was paying out on the decision to get rid of dave Rennie and bring in Eddie , thinks they are worse off .
No history that I’m aware of and the way that I took what he said was more a swipe at the ARU and the whole process, timing etc. I didn’t mind Knuckles. He didn’t get long in the top job, just a couple of seasons and then was dumped.
Was good to hear the big man after a couple of tough years health wise.
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@cgrant It's pretty hard to forecast this next match, because Fozzie could do anything. But, if he loses, he'll have to run out his top team the following week for fear of losing the Bled. So, I'm inclined to think a few changes, but probably not many. Something like:
Williams
Samisoni
Lomax
Retallick
Whitelock
Barrett
Cane
Savea
Roigard
Mo'unga
Telea
JBarrett
Ioane
Jordan
DMacColes
Tu'ungafasi
Laulala
Frizell
Jacobsen
Christie
ALB
Fainga'anukuHopefully, lock the Bled and RC away and run the game time experiments the following week.
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@ACT-Crusader said in Australia v All Blacks - Bled I:
[Knuckles] didn’t get long in the top job, just a couple of seasons and then was dumped.
Standard procedure.
He also made some weird selection choices, but was given a squad too long in the tooth.
It's funny because it was back in the days where we only just had our fourth team, and the rot had already set in re: player development. The theory that less teams = better performance is simply not a guarantee.
