Argentina v All Blacks
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@Joans-Town-Jones said in Argentina v All Blacks:
@taniwharugby and I think that is where NZ rugby has lost. I'll never forget a series loss at home, and two losses for the first time. Hell, I still haven't forgiven Hansen for Chicago and the Lions. ABs rugby is dead if tests in-between WC are forgotten. You could see the hurt in Justin Marshall's eyes after Ireland.
Im with you brother. This stuff matters.
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The crest on the front of the jersey is bigger than any name on the back.
And no one should be allowed stink the shirt out for an extended period of time.
That's why the legacy came to be.
Heroes come and go......and there is no shame in that.
But when its time to be moved on, move them on. Whoever they may be.
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At this stage of the cycle we should have a core 12 players and then time and wiggle room for a flavour of the month , a Milner Skudder type with the hot hand (Stevenson) to be the icing on the cake.
4 games from word cup and we are still fluting around with Frizell, Beaudy, Caleb.
Its an omni shambles.
Mo'unga has won super rugby 7 years on the spin??? Is that right? And he has never been properly given the keys to the castle.
I love DMAC. He could play a blinder this week....and you know what happens next week? He is either dropped or shunted to 15 so Mo'unga gets a go.
EVERYONE has been done a disservice since 2019 including Beaudy. Backrow the same.
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@BerniesCorner said in Argentina v All Blacks:
@MN5 And while your at it give Paekak Ex. a call
I miss Cully.
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@voodoo said in Argentina v All Blacks:
Not sure the 11/10/13 axis is traditionally considered a “combo”…
Well, maybe not as I missed JB from the list...
But the point still stands: the 9-15 combo apart from 10 & 14 are pretty settled and pretty much identical when RM comes off the bench.
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@Bones said in Argentina v All Blacks:
I'm not sure throwing in a bunch of rusty players instead is the answer.
You could well be right. I just referenced a comment made by someone else to get my head around Foster's selections.
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@MN5 said in Argentina v All Blacks:
Yeah I’m seriously scratching my head by this. For a country that historically has test class players growing on trees the drop down since Kaino has retired has been baffling.
Is it that hard to find a big, scary, skilled munter to fill the void ?
We don't seem to have a decent development plan in place do we - and not just at 6?
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@Canerbry said in Argentina v All Blacks:
@No-Quarter the buzz has almost reached the Roger Randle peak.
Jamie Macintosh says "Hi".
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I seriously don't care if and when we lose this year. But, I'd hope everyone has the shackles off, play like a NZ SR Derby match and reward players in form. On that basis WJ/SS/LF/MT/SF/EN/RM/DM are regular starters.
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@Victor-Meldrew said in Argentina v All Blacks:
@Bones said in Argentina v All Blacks:
I'm not sure throwing in a bunch of rusty players instead is the answer.
You could well be right. I just referenced a comment made by someone else to get my head around Foster's selections.
You're underplaying it to a tee fella
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Reckon we’re focusing too much on the ingredients and not the recipe here. Jase Ryan is coming in with a whole off-season of prep and Uncle Joe bending Fozzy’s ear. If the Argies bring the same system the ABs should know what to do but the key will be reading and reacting to anything different.
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@game_film in 5 years at the helm, Fozzie is going to change things up now?
He's been playing the ultimate long game, hustling everyone with the sole goal of the RWC...
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@Chris said in Argentina v All Blacks:
@Dan54 said in Argentina v All Blacks:
@Chris said in Argentina v All Blacks:
Haha no accounting for taste is there,
I think your selection standard is of a very low standard.Yep and you know what mate, it's probably as good as anyone's on here, and doesn't make an iota of difference because we never have to be proved right or wrong.
That is a matter of opinion if you think that selection v Argentina is a good one then I think you have no idea at all.Just whatever Foster does or selects is all unicorns and Rainbows as far you are concerned.
Selections that continually fail is not good selecting and once again Foster will stuff up this year like the last 3 years.
Thank Fuck he is gone for next season.He repeats the same mistakes every year.Of course it a matter of opinion, and does it worry me what you think, not an iota. I have seen nothing that would indicate you are more expert than the rest of us.
I actually like the fact that some of the risks are taken early, and I see I like what Ryan is trying with forwards, Lord (and I think it's because he a 2m+) , have a look at him and decide whether he or Vai'i going forward. Same with Frizell sort out whether he fits in with his game plan for forwards etc. Personally I would of picked SS myself ahead of BB , but I certainly don't pretend to know why or wherefors of why they been selected, Same with Clarke, but I also rightly or wrongly listen to thoughts of people who are involved at higher level and realise their thoughts are different from mine , and a lot because of how the game is played at higher levels.
Also think another reason for selections is because (and I don't like it) the whole season is aimed towards WC.
And it amuses me you think only Foster selects team.
I will add the one I do listen (well probably a fan of) in coaching group is Jason Ryan, tend to listen to what he says and admit will also take a shit load more note of him than anyone on any forum. -
@taniwharugby said in Argentina v All Blacks:
@game_film in 5 years at the helm, Fozzie is going to change things up now?
He's been playing the ultimate long game, hustling everyone with the sole goal of the RWC...
Haha mate he's stuffed up then, if he planned over 5 years he only been at helm for coming uo 4!!
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@Dan54 said in Argentina v All Blacks:
Same with Frizell sort out whether he fits in with his game plan for forwards etc
You reckon we will know by 2025, or will we need more time?
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@Dan54 well he has been part of the set up for far longer and IIRC Hansen said he had more control in those latter years too, but either way, I don't think we will see any huge changes, as much as I'd love to...
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@taniwharugby No mate, I was just having you on because of the 5 years at the helm, as the WC cycle he been in charge is only 4 years, was not serious at all!
