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    foobaNZ
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    @Dan54 said in QF: Brumbies v Hurricanes:

    @Winger said in QF: Brumbies v Hurricanes:

    @foobaNZ said in QF: Brumbies v Hurricanes:

    Is it too much to ask to drop Blackwell? Just once please Holland.

    I'd love an IWL & Sangster second row.

    Canberra is a graveyard for us but this group should surely be up for it after exiting there twice in recent history as you say.

    He won't. As the coaches just have a blind spot and don't understand the importance of a good lineout. It's easy to blame Holland but Gibbes must also agree. We were just lucky last WE that Whitelock went at HT as our lineout was struggling up until then. Otherwise their selection are good. I don't agree 100% but have no WTF is going on reaction. But having a short lineout is a disaster against the top sides. They need a lot of luck to win. Like Whitelock going off. Or 3 tries in the last 15 vs the Blues.

    Wellington selected Blackwell at lock. But the coaches were smart enough to select a tall lock with him (Bird 2.04) and another good lineout option at 6 (Delany 1.95) So the Wellington lineout was a strength not a weakness.

    But the Canes ignore Bird. He should be selected to start if Blackwell is the other lock. I would also start Delany at 6 but only if Blackwell starts. My preference would be Bird and IWL to start. Flanders at 6 and Delany and Sangster as replacements so we would always have a strong lineout. Savea cover 7 and Flanders 8.

    I am sure the coaches realise the importance of lineout, I quite sure is us keyboard warriors do , they know a lot more than us. They also will no doubt way up general play, scrumming ability and everything else that is involved in a game of rugby. They just don't watch game on tv, but whole thing.

    I dunno. Our lineout has been dreadful.

    Blackwell not all to blame but a bigger body would no doubt help in the air. We won't win anything with a 50/50 line out.

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    Screenshot 2023-06-07 at 3.02.56 PM.png

    Hurricanes v Brumbies

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    Same QF as last year

    Canes had a healthy lead and then conceded the last 20 points

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    Looking at the starters in that game you could argue we have a stronger team than last year and they look to have a slightly weaker side. They no longer have Fainga'a and Banks, and we will likely have a healthy Flanders starting instead of Gibson, Cameron starting instead of Morgan, Lomax starting instead of Franks, and we don't have a flakey Rayasi on the wing.

    We've got this. 😃

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    @Duluth jeez that's a shocking record isn't it. Mind you they must have a pretty awful record in Wellington because isn't the head to head overall quite close?

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    @Canes4life said in QF: Brumbies v Hurricanes:

    Looking at the starters in that game you could argue we have a stronger team than last year and they look to have a slightly weaker side. They no longer have Fainga'a and Banks, and we will likely have a healthy Flanders starting instead of Gibson, Cameron starting instead of Morgan, Lomax starting instead of Franks, and we don't have a flakey Rayasi on the wing.

    We've got this. 😃

    And let’s not forget you have Ardie Savea, the only current NZ player to make the greatest team of the professional era…

    In da bag uce

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    @Canes4life said in QF: Brumbies v Hurricanes:

    Looking at the starters in that game you could argue we have a stronger team than last year and they look to have a slightly weaker side. They no longer have Fainga'a and Banks, and we will likely have a healthy Flanders starting instead of Gibson, Cameron starting instead of Morgan, Lomax starting instead of Franks, and we don't have a flakey Rayasi on the wing.

    We've got this. 😃

    As long as Booth doesn't get 20 minutes...

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    @ACT-Crusader said in QF: Brumbies v Hurricanes:

    And let’s not forget you have Ardie Savea, the only current NZ player to make the greatest team of the professional era…

    In da bag uce

    Only if he plays at 6 🙂

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    @ACT-Crusader said in QF: Brumbies v Hurricanes:

    @Canes4life said in QF: Brumbies v Hurricanes:

    Looking at the starters in that game you could argue we have a stronger team than last year and they look to have a slightly weaker side. They no longer have Fainga'a and Banks, and we will likely have a healthy Flanders starting instead of Gibson, Cameron starting instead of Morgan, Lomax starting instead of Franks, and we don't have a flakey Rayasi on the wing.

    We've got this. 😃

    And let’s not forget you have Ardie Savea, the only current NZ player to make the greatest team of the professional era…

    Sure, as an impact utility. Collins, McCaw & Read start for me.

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    Hurricanes Named for Quarter-Final Clash in Canberra

    Hurricanes Named for Quarter-Final Clash in Canberra

    1 Xavier Numia
    2 Dane Coles
    3 Tyrel Lomax (50th Hurricanes Game)
    4 James Blackwell
    5 Caleb Delany
    6 Devan Flanders
    7 Ardie Savea (Captain)
    8 Brayden Iose
    9 Cam Roigard
    10 Brett Cameron
    11 Kini Naholo
    12 Jordie Barrett
    13 Billy Proctor
    14 Daniel Sinkinson
    15 Josh Moorby

    Replacements
    16 Asafo Aumua
    17 Tevita Mafileo
    18 Owen Franks
    19 Isaia Walker-Leawere
    20 Du’Plessis Kirifi
    21 Jamie Booth
    22 Ruben Love
    23 Bailyn Sullivan

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    James Slipper, Lachlan Lonergan, Sefo Kautai, Nick Frost, Cadeyrn Neville, Tom Hooper, Jahrome Brown, Pete Samu, Nic White (c), Jack Debreczeni, Ollie Sapsford, Tamati Tua, Len Ikitau, Andy Muirhead, Tom Wright

    Reserves: Connal McInerney, Blake Schoupp, Rhys Van Nek, Tom Hooper, Luke Reimer, Ryan Lonergan, Noah Lolesio, Jesse Mogg

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    foobaNZ
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    I feel like Holland has been helped a bit. Can't pick Jules if he's injured.

    Good team, obviously we'd all swap out Blackwell but otherwise I'm pretty happy with it.

    Any one know why Pouri is on the outer this year? I thought he'd been one of our best the last few years.

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    Valetini injured?

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    @Duluth said in QF: Brumbies v Hurricanes:

    Hurricanes Named for Quarter-Final Clash in Canberra

    Hurricanes Named for Quarter-Final Clash in Canberra

    Unavailable for selection: Tyler Laubscher, Reed Prinsep, TJ Perenara, Salesi Rayasi, Julian Savea

    Unavailable due to New Zealand under-20s commitments: Peter Lakai, Harry Godfrey

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    @Canes4life

    @Duluth said in QF: Brumbies v Hurricanes:

    James Slipper, Lachlan Lonergan, Sefo Kautai, Nick Frost, Cadeyrn Neville, Tom Hooper, Jahrome Brown, Pete Samu, Nic White (c), Jack Debreczeni, Ollie Sapsford, Tamati Tua, Len Ikitau, Andy Muirhead, Tom Wright

    Reserves: Connal McInerney, Blake Schoupp, Rhys Van Nek, Tom Hooper, Luke Reimer, Ryan Lonergan, Noah Lolesio, Jesse Mogg

    Unsure if the above team is correct

    But Canes give away a lot of height in the lineout

    Blackwell 1.90
    Delany 1.95
    Flanders 1.93
    IWL 1.97

    Compared
    Frost 2.05
    Neville 2.02
    Hooper 1.99

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    @foobaNZ said in QF: Brumbies v Hurricanes:

    Any one know why Pouri is on the outer this year

    He's had a few games. But who would you drop. Numia has been playing very well this year. Much better than last year in SRP

    The surprise selection for me is Sinkinson. I thought he was fairly average last WE and his only other start. Useless Booth and short with limited ball skills Blackwell I expected to be selected but either could lose us this game. Both we have other options

    It's a shame as with a few changes it would be a very strong side. I would feel confident with luck of going all the way. Now I feel we will need luck on our side to win this one. Esp in the lineout.

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    Debreczeni over Noah is interesting.

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    Valetini’s at 6. Hooper on the bench

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    @yourmatenate
    Brumbies: James Slipper, Lachlan Lonergan, Sefo Kautai, Nick Frost, Cadeyrn Neville, Rob Valetini, Jahrome Brown, Pete Samu, Nic White (c), Jack Debreczeni, Ollie Sapsford, Tamati Tua, Len Ikitau, Andy Muirhead, Tom Wright

    Replacements: Connal McInerney, Blake Schoupp, Rhys Vank Nek, Tom Hooper, Luke Reimer, Ryan Lonergan, Noah Lolesio, Jesse Mogg

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