Highlanders v Hurricanes
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@Mattasaurus said in Highlanders v Hurricanes:
worst reffing performance so far this year
He misses so much obvious stuff and the breakdown is always "interesting".
How Murphy let Proctor roll and roll in the leadup to Blackwell's try was a shocker. The Hurricanes had a penalty advantage but still.
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@Yeetyaah said in Highlanders v Hurricanes:
I think the Canes still go to the top of the table if it's still on points diff
Stay on topic. This is the ABs hookers and halfbacks thread.
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Enjoyed that, would of liked bonus point, but didn't expect us to get one.
Geez the Blackwell haters would be quiet tonight, he went bloody well. I still worry we haven't got a lot of height, when Howden came on, shouldn't really win mant lineouts at but the boys kept up alright I thought. Well drilled lineout?
Roigard-Fakatava battle was good,.
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@Dan54 said in Highlanders v Hurricanes:
Geez the Blackwell haters would be quiet tonight, he went bloody well.
Up there with saying Foster managed the hookers well. Apart from a crucial mistake letting the Landers in, nearly fluffing a sure try and being otherwise fairly anonymous, he went bloody well.
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Just started watching the replay. Great ball retention from the Hurricanes, 17 phases to score the first try
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@Bones said in Highlanders v Hurricanes:
@Dan54 said in Highlanders v Hurricanes:
Geez the Blackwell haters would be quiet tonight, he went bloody well.
Up there with saying Foster managed the hookers well. Apart from a crucial mistake letting the Landers in, nearly fluffing a sure try and being otherwise fairly anonymous, he went bloody well.
Well guess you see what you want to see, if you saw that it kind of sums up how hard you watch the game. No worries though .
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@Dan54 said in Highlanders v Hurricanes:
@Bones said in Highlanders v Hurricanes:
@Dan54 said in Highlanders v Hurricanes:
Geez the Blackwell haters would be quiet tonight, he went bloody well.
Up there with saying Foster managed the hookers well. Apart from a crucial mistake letting the Landers in, nearly fluffing a sure try and being otherwise fairly anonymous, he went bloody well.
Well guess you see what you want to see, if you saw that it kind of sums up how hard you watch the game. No worries though .
I know you are you said you are but what am i
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It looks like Cameron wont play any SR again this year. A big loss.
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@Dan54 said in Highlanders v Hurricanes:
@Bones said in Highlanders v Hurricanes:
@Dan54 said in Highlanders v Hurricanes:
Geez the Blackwell haters would be quiet tonight, he went bloody well.
Up there with saying Foster managed the hookers well. Apart from a crucial mistake letting the Landers in, nearly fluffing a sure try and being otherwise fairly anonymous, he went bloody well.
Well guess you see what you want to see, if you saw that it kind of sums up how hard you watch the game. No worries though .
Not sure what Foster has to do with it. But anyway.....Or instead of yet again claiming how you the true rugby man is better than other posters, you could back up your baseless platitudes with something other than "he was really good haterz lolz". Might help your case better than claiming I don't know how to watch rugby when I actually stated stuff from the game and you gave a generic statement.
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@Bones said in Highlanders v Hurricanes:
@Dan54 said in Highlanders v Hurricanes:
@Bones said in Highlanders v Hurricanes:
@Dan54 said in Highlanders v Hurricanes:
Geez the Blackwell haters would be quiet tonight, he went bloody well.
Up there with saying Foster managed the hookers well. Apart from a crucial mistake letting the Landers in, nearly fluffing a sure try and being otherwise fairly anonymous, he went bloody well.
Well guess you see what you want to see, if you saw that it kind of sums up how hard you watch the game. No worries though .
Not sure what Foster has to do with it. But anyway.....Or instead of yet again claiming how you the true rugby man is better than other posters, you could back up your baseless platitudes with something other than "he was really good haterz lolz". Might help your case better than claiming I don't know how to watch rugby when I actually stated stuff from the game and you gave a generic statement.
Wht are you talking about? I said I thought Blackwell went well and you replied something about Foster and hookers whatever that was about. You had a couple of beers? I also said you see what you want, we all do. You thought Blackwell was anonymous, I saw a lot, we obviously look at different parts of games. Didn't know you were a hater so wasn't even directed at you anyway.
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@Dan54 said in Highlanders v Hurricanes:
@Bones said in Highlanders v Hurricanes:
@Dan54 said in Highlanders v Hurricanes:
@Bones said in Highlanders v Hurricanes:
@Dan54 said in Highlanders v Hurricanes:
Geez the Blackwell haters would be quiet tonight, he went bloody well.
Up there with saying Foster managed the hookers well. Apart from a crucial mistake letting the Landers in, nearly fluffing a sure try and being otherwise fairly anonymous, he went bloody well.
Well guess you see what you want to see, if you saw that it kind of sums up how hard you watch the game. No worries though .
Not sure what Foster has to do with it. But anyway.....Or instead of yet again claiming how you the true rugby man is better than other posters, you could back up your baseless platitudes with something other than "he was really good haterz lolz". Might help your case better than claiming I don't know how to watch rugby when I actually stated stuff from the game and you gave a generic statement.
Wht are you talking about? I said I thought Blackwell went well and you replied something about Foster and hookers whatever that was about. You had a couple of beers? I also said you see what you want, we all do. You thought Blackwell was anonymous, I saw a lot, we obviously look at different parts of games. Didn't know you were a hater so wasn't even directed at you anyway.
Nice try, still not quite there eh. Yeah good one, I wanted to see Blackwell being anonymous apart from a badly taken try and a couple of dropsies. How did you know?
I guess you saw what you wanted to see. Really wish I could see such specific things as "a lot" 😂
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@Dan54 said in Highlanders v Hurricanes:
Enjoyed that, would of liked bonus point, but didn't expect us to get one.
Geez the Blackwell haters would be quiet tonight, he went bloody well. I still worry we haven't got a lot of height, when Howden came on, shouldn't really win mant lineouts at but the boys kept up alright I thought. Well drilled lineout?
Roigard-Fakatava battle was good,.
Blackwell was great. He has stepped it up over the past 2 seasons. Makes many fewer mistakes now.
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@Bones said in Highlanders v Hurricanes:
@Dan54 said in Highlanders v Hurricanes:
@Bones said in Highlanders v Hurricanes:
@Dan54 said in Highlanders v Hurricanes:
@Bones said in Highlanders v Hurricanes:
@Dan54 said in Highlanders v Hurricanes:
Geez the Blackwell haters would be quiet tonight, he went bloody well.
Up there with saying Foster managed the hookers well. Apart from a crucial mistake letting the Landers in, nearly fluffing a sure try and being otherwise fairly anonymous, he went bloody well.
Well guess you see what you want to see, if you saw that it kind of sums up how hard you watch the game. No worries though .
Not sure what Foster has to do with it. But anyway.....Or instead of yet again claiming how you the true rugby man is better than other posters, you could back up your baseless platitudes with something other than "he was really good haterz lolz". Might help your case better than claiming I don't know how to watch rugby when I actually stated stuff from the game and you gave a generic statement.
Wht are you talking about? I said I thought Blackwell went well and you replied something about Foster and hookers whatever that was about. You had a couple of beers? I also said you see what you want, we all do. You thought Blackwell was anonymous, I saw a lot, we obviously look at different parts of games. Didn't know you were a hater so wasn't even directed at you anyway.
Nice try, still not quite there eh. Yeah good one, I wanted to see Blackwell being anonymous apart from a badly taken try and a couple of dropsies. How did you know?
I guess you saw what you wanted to see. Really wish I could see such specific things as "a lot" 😂
Basically I was surprised the lineout ball he won, and the couple of turnover penalties he won. The reason I was surprised the lineouts he won late because when Bird went I think Blackwell, Iose and Howden are all a bit small especially against PPP, Dickson and Frizzel, but they were still winning their ball, which was bloody good work by them all.
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@Tim said in Highlanders v Hurricanes:
@Victor-Meldrew It was poorly managed. It was just Foster bias towards old players who are not very good. Taylor at his best is about a 5 or 6 out of ten at test level.
You're right if you are referring to Taylor, but I'm talking about Taukei'aho. Roigard, like Taukei'aho, looks a real talent and hope he's brought into the squad and given game time and opportunities to settle in.
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Canes too good in the end but it was an enjoyable game to watch.
For the Clan, TUJ is going from strength to strength the longer he stays uninjured. He is a star in the making. Billy Harmon is one of my favorite players. That Clan forward pack is as good as any team in the comp. but the team lacks something...
For the Canes, as stated in the thread, Roigard is special. No contest tonight, Fakatava not in the hunt. Aumua is a beast. Canes front five have starch. Look forward to the game against the Chiefs. -
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@Dan54 said in Highlanders v Hurricanes:
Not sure what Foster has to do with it. But anyway.....
I mentioned that I thought Roigard should be included in the ABs on his current form and hoped the coaches would handle him as successfully as they did Taukei'aho and we ended up with good options at 2 - one of the few successes in the last year or so.
Some people then disagreed on the basis Cody Taylor is/was a shit hooker and Foster picked him against Ireland. I think.
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@hydro11 said in Highlanders v Hurricanes:
@Mattasaurus said in Highlanders v Hurricanes:
Roigard > Fakatava isn't a hard call is it
Based on tonight, yes, but Fakatava has runs on the board.
Very few runs. He's barely played for the ABs and isn't a regular Super starter due to Aaron Smith.
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@Victor-Meldrew said in Highlanders v Hurricanes:
@Dan54 said in Highlanders v Hurricanes:
Not sure what Foster has to do with it. But anyway.....
I mentioned that I thought Roigard should be included in the ABs on his current form and hoped the coaches would handle him as successfully as they did Taukei'aho and we ended up with good options at 2 - one of the few successes in the last year or so.
Some people then disagreed on the basis Cody Taylor is/was a shit hooker and Foster picked him against Ireland. I think.
Stop being obtuse. Taylor would have continued being selected and Taukeiaho would have been ignored - Foster even said as much iirc.
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Hurricanes player ratings:
Against a bigger Chiefs pack next week I would probably switch Iose for Howden.
I would definitely bring either Sullivan or Naholo in for J Savea, his name was mentioned probably only twice last night.
Three best players for me last night from a Canes lense were Roigard, Kirifi and Proctor.
From a Highlanders POV Thomas Jmaga-Jensen was outstanding, and I thought Harmon and Renton were very solid.
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@Bones said in Highlanders v Hurricanes:
@Tim said in Highlanders v Hurricanes:
He's gone past staunch to geriatric piston wristed gibbon.
King of the niggle. 😂
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@Canes4life said in Highlanders v Hurricanes:
@Bones said in Highlanders v Hurricanes:
@Tim said in Highlanders v Hurricanes:
He's gone past staunch to geriatric piston wristed gibbon.
King of the niggle. 😂
Used to be, that's not niggle though, that's just being a dick. I'd be embarrassed if any of my teammates acted like that.
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@Victor-Meldrew said in Highlanders v Hurricanes:
@Dan54 said in Highlanders v Hurricanes:
Not sure what Foster has to do with it. But anyway.....
I mentioned that I thought Roigard should be included in the ABs on his current form and hoped the coaches would handle him as successfully as they did Taukei'aho and we ended up with good options at 2 - one of the few successes in the last year or so.
Some people then disagreed on the basis Cody Taylor is/was a shit hooker and Foster picked him against Ireland. I think.
Ok mate, I still a bit confused about it coming into how Blackwell went, but it's all good .
I gave that with a caveat, I pretty easy to confuse anyway. -
@Bones said in Highlanders v Hurricanes:
@Canes4life said in Highlanders v Hurricanes:
@Bones said in Highlanders v Hurricanes:
@Tim said in Highlanders v Hurricanes:
He's gone past staunch to geriatric piston wristed gibbon.
King of the niggle. 😂
Used to be, that's not niggle though, that's just being a dick. I'd be embarrassed if any of my teammates acted like that.
Lol I've seen a lot worse than that from Colesy. I watched a club game between Poneke and Petone where he rubbed a guys face into the dirt after he smashed him in a tackle. Dane Coles will always be a pest.
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@Bones said in Highlanders v Hurricanes:
@Canes4life said in Highlanders v Hurricanes:
@Bones said in Highlanders v Hurricanes:
@Tim said in Highlanders v Hurricanes:
He's gone past staunch to geriatric piston wristed gibbon.
King of the niggle. 😂
Used to be, that's not niggle though, that's just being a dick. I'd be embarrassed if any of my teammates acted like that.
Agree. If Gilbert had stayed down and feigned injury Coles could have spent a bit of time on the sideline. Off the ball crap that may have been direct contact to the head.
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@Crazy-Horse said in Highlanders v Hurricanes:
@Bones said in Highlanders v Hurricanes:
@Canes4life said in Highlanders v Hurricanes:
@Bones said in Highlanders v Hurricanes:
@Tim said in Highlanders v Hurricanes:
He's gone past staunch to geriatric piston wristed gibbon.
King of the niggle. 😂
Used to be, that's not niggle though, that's just being a dick. I'd be embarrassed if any of my teammates acted like that.
Agree. If Gilbert had stayed down and feigned injury Coles could have spent a bit of time on the sideline. Off the ball crap that may have been direct contact to the head.
Gilbert grabbed at Coles leg when Coles was moving on, Coles sat him back down
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@Machpants said in Highlanders v Hurricanes:
@Crazy-Horse said in Highlanders v Hurricanes:
@Bones said in Highlanders v Hurricanes:
@Canes4life said in Highlanders v Hurricanes:
@Bones said in Highlanders v Hurricanes:
@Tim said in Highlanders v Hurricanes:
He's gone past staunch to geriatric piston wristed gibbon.
King of the niggle. 😂
Used to be, that's not niggle though, that's just being a dick. I'd be embarrassed if any of my teammates acted like that.
Agree. If Gilbert had stayed down and feigned injury Coles could have spent a bit of time on the sideline. Off the ball crap that may have been direct contact to the head.
Gilbert grabbed at Coles leg when Coles was moving on, Coles sat him back down
By using what could have been a forearm to the head. He may have been provoked but it's a risk to react the way he did nowadays.
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@Crazy-Horse said in Highlanders v Hurricanes:
@Machpants said in Highlanders v Hurricanes:
@Crazy-Horse said in Highlanders v Hurricanes:
@Bones said in Highlanders v Hurricanes:
@Canes4life said in Highlanders v Hurricanes:
@Bones said in Highlanders v Hurricanes:
@Tim said in Highlanders v Hurricanes:
He's gone past staunch to geriatric piston wristed gibbon.
King of the niggle. 😂
Used to be, that's not niggle though, that's just being a dick. I'd be embarrassed if any of my teammates acted like that.
Agree. If Gilbert had stayed down and feigned injury Coles could have spent a bit of time on the sideline. Off the ball crap that may have been direct contact to the head.
Gilbert grabbed at Coles leg when Coles was moving on, Coles sat him back down
By using what could have been a forearm to the head. He may have been provoked but it's a risk to react the way he did nowadays.
Oh I don't disagree, he was at risk. Just that it wasn't for no reason, like I first thought
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@Machpants said in Highlanders v Hurricanes:
@Crazy-Horse said in Highlanders v Hurricanes:
@Machpants said in Highlanders v Hurricanes:
@Crazy-Horse said in Highlanders v Hurricanes:
@Bones said in Highlanders v Hurricanes:
@Canes4life said in Highlanders v Hurricanes:
@Bones said in Highlanders v Hurricanes:
@Tim said in Highlanders v Hurricanes:
He's gone past staunch to geriatric piston wristed gibbon.
King of the niggle. 😂
Used to be, that's not niggle though, that's just being a dick. I'd be embarrassed if any of my teammates acted like that.
Agree. If Gilbert had stayed down and feigned injury Coles could have spent a bit of time on the sideline. Off the ball crap that may have been direct contact to the head.
Gilbert grabbed at Coles leg when Coles was moving on, Coles sat him back down
By using what could have been a forearm to the head. He may have been provoked but it's a risk to react the way he did nowadays.
Oh I don't disagree, he was at risk. Just that it wasn't for no reason, like I first thought
I thought the Canes as a whole targeted Renton a fair bit with niggle too, not just Coles. While Renton played a good game the niggle worked to the extent where the ref noticed Renton getting agitated and told him to settle. Ref would have been watching Renton after that.
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@Machpants said in Highlanders v Hurricanes:
@Crazy-Horse said in Highlanders v Hurricanes:
@Bones said in Highlanders v Hurricanes:
@Canes4life said in Highlanders v Hurricanes:
@Bones said in Highlanders v Hurricanes:
@Tim said in Highlanders v Hurricanes:
He's gone past staunch to geriatric piston wristed gibbon.
King of the niggle. 😂
Used to be, that's not niggle though, that's just being a dick. I'd be embarrassed if any of my teammates acted like that.
Agree. If Gilbert had stayed down and feigned injury Coles could have spent a bit of time on the sideline. Off the ball crap that may have been direct contact to the head.
Gilbert grabbed at Coles leg when Coles was moving on, Coles sat him back down
I have watched that five or six times and I have no idea what you’re seeing as grabbing his leg
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Right, pretty down on the season already so not really surprised
Harmon, TUJ, de groot and ainsley all very good
Was happy with millar and disappointed with his injury
That’s pretty much it though, frizell very quiet, our wings never do anything because we never get them the ball…and won’t even comment of paea, Gregory etc
First time I’ve actually watched out for roigard, after seeing all the chat, he’s great, get him in there
One of the biggest things the canes seems to bring is the post contact “energy” everyone take their hit and then twists and turns, worst case they get another meter and put the tacklers in an offside position, best case they break the tackle, it was impressive…crossed the line a couple of times I think with a few rolls or crawls but generally really good
I also think proctor at 13 was very impressive, always looks to get outside and feed his wings
The only one I have a question mark about was Morgan…looks very hunt like…but not as good which is saying something
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@Kiwiwomble Morgan was quiet yesterday, but in your return with that team around you...he played it perfectly. He's elventy million times better than Hunt, who in the same situation would have danced a few jigs into the back of Moorby and maybe a pass or two to the opposition.
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@Canes4life said in Highlanders v Hurricanes:
@Bones said in Highlanders v Hurricanes:
@Canes4life said in Highlanders v Hurricanes:
@Bones said in Highlanders v Hurricanes:
@Tim said in Highlanders v Hurricanes:
He's gone past staunch to geriatric piston wristed gibbon.
King of the niggle. 😂
Used to be, that's not niggle though, that's just being a dick. I'd be embarrassed if any of my teammates acted like that.
Lol I've seen a lot worse than that from Colesy. I watched a club game between Poneke and Petone where he rubbed a guys face into the dirt after he smashed him in a tackle. Dane Coles will always be a pest.
I know what niggle and being a pest is, that's not it. That's being a dickhead. I'm not sure what you seeing him do in club rugby has to do with it.
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@Kiwiwomble Paea looks like a wing covering center. He completely ignores his wings and TUJ was covering a fair bit of his defensive duties at times. The sooner Timu is back the better I think.
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@Bones said in Highlanders v Hurricanes:
@Canes4life said in Highlanders v Hurricanes:
@Bones said in Highlanders v Hurricanes:
@Canes4life said in Highlanders v Hurricanes:
@Bones said in Highlanders v Hurricanes:
@Tim said in Highlanders v Hurricanes:
He's gone past staunch to geriatric piston wristed gibbon.
King of the niggle. 😂
Used to be, that's not niggle though, that's just being a dick. I'd be embarrassed if any of my teammates acted like that.
Lol I've seen a lot worse than that from Colesy. I watched a club game between Poneke and Petone where he rubbed a guys face into the dirt after he smashed him in a tackle. Dane Coles will always be a pest.
I know what niggle and being a pest is, that's not it. That's being a dickhead. I'm not sure what you seeing him do in club rugby has to do with it.
Have we gone soft here or are you just protective because he’s a Highlander. Dane Coles hits the kid hard and gives him a shove, who bloody cares. I’ve seen far worse off the ball shit over the years.
Dickhead or not that sort of behaviour isn’t new to rugby. I think Gilbert will get over it.
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@Canes4life said in Highlanders v Hurricanes:
@Bones said in Highlanders v Hurricanes:
@Canes4life said in Highlanders v Hurricanes:
@Bones said in Highlanders v Hurricanes:
@Canes4life said in Highlanders v Hurricanes:
@Bones said in Highlanders v Hurricanes:
@Tim said in Highlanders v Hurricanes:
He's gone past staunch to geriatric piston wristed gibbon.
King of the niggle. 😂
Used to be, that's not niggle though, that's just being a dick. I'd be embarrassed if any of my teammates acted like that.
Lol I've seen a lot worse than that from Colesy. I watched a club game between Poneke and Petone where he rubbed a guys face into the dirt after he smashed him in a tackle. Dane Coles will always be a pest.
I know what niggle and being a pest is, that's not it. That's being a dickhead. I'm not sure what you seeing him do in club rugby has to do with it.
Have we gone soft here or are you just protective because he’s a Highlander. Dane Coles hits the kid hard and gives him a shove, who bloody cares. I’ve seen far worse off the ball shit over the years.
Dickhead or not that sort of behaviour isn’t new to rugby. I think Gilbert will get over it.
The point is it's stupid. Imagine Gilbert stayed down and it was reviewed in slow motion. He may or may not have been sent to the naughty boy chair. Are you happy to risk that as a Hurricane supporter? I'd hate to think how that would have gone down if he did that at Twickenham or Ellis Park in a Black jumper.
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@Crazy-Horse this incident is similar to so many other incidents I’ve seen throughout the years which is why I’m struggling to see what all the fuss is about. You see dickhead behaviour like that in most games which is probably why they didn’t touch on it any further during the game. To me it’s just typical Coles behaviour. Should he act like that? Probably not. Is he a dickhead sometimes? Yes. But it’s still not new to rugby. Players do that shit all the time, and they will continue to do it in years to come. Move on I’d say, there are plenty of hot heads out there.
UPDATE: alright, I’ve watched this on a bigger screen and I see he’s clocked him in the head. My initial viewing of the incident was off a small screen so thought it was general niggle and just Coles playing ‘how’s your father’.
Fair play, anything that makes contact with the head is uncalled for so yes Coles was probably lucky this wasn’t reviewed during the match.
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