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    @Crucial said in It’s Razor. Robertson New All Blacks coach.:

    Where is the Razor criticism?

    Not being funny, but why should there be any criticism?

    He hasn't had one of his AB teams run onto a field yet and we won't know if his choice of Assistants was a good/bad one until after a few games.

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    @Machpants said in It’s Razor. Robertson New All Blacks coach.:

    @Stargazer said in It’s Razor. Robertson New All Blacks coach.:

    @Victor-Meldrew said in It’s Razor. Robertson New All Blacks coach.:

    @Machpants said in It’s Razor. Robertson New All Blacks coach.:

    I disagree, he will be given time.

    That will depend on who you ask.

    I mean the general media and the majority of supporters that have a brain

    If Robertson loses the Eden Park record, the Bledisloe or to Scotland (quite probable as other nations improve ), it wouldn't be long before even the general media and the majority of supporters that have a brain start criticizing and comparing unfavourably to Foster.

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    Probably right, but it is not going to happen

    EDIT except for Eden Park record, that is nothing, it's going to go at some point. Fuck, even the Bled we've lost it before. But he will not lose to Scotland. That sort of 'never to get back' record loss is a Foster speciality

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    @kiwi_expat said in It’s Razor. Robertson New All Blacks coach.:

    No, they have not won anything of note, Ta$man were patchy & inconsistent during his tenure and significantly improved after he left, they were better under Kieran Keane IMO and clearly under Goodman/Dermody.

    That's not really true.

    Under Keane Ta$man finished 9th, 13th, 14th, 10th, 8th, 2nd, 3rd.

    Under Leon 2nd, 2nd, 3rd - losing to Canterbury each time.

    Got gypped in his last season when Hansen gave Canterbury Joe Moody for the semi-final to nullify our scrum advantage.

    Ta$man was on an upward trajectory with Keane and Leon, continued under Leon - Goodman and Dermody finished it off, but all the key pieces were already in place.

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    @Chris-B Auckland thrashed Ta$man that year anyway. No way you would have won at Eden Park.

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    @Tim That's what we thought in 2020! 🙂

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    @Chris-B Much better Auckland forwards in 2019.

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    @Tim The Great Sam Prattley for one! 🙂

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    @Victor-Meldrew said in It’s Razor. Robertson New All Blacks coach.:

    @Machpants said in It’s Razor. Robertson New All Blacks coach.:

    @Stargazer said in It’s Razor. Robertson New All Blacks coach.:

    @Victor-Meldrew said in It’s Razor. Robertson New All Blacks coach.:

    @Machpants said in It’s Razor. Robertson New All Blacks coach.:

    I disagree, he will be given time.

    That will depend on who you ask.

    I mean the general media and the majority of supporters that have a brain

    If Robertson loses the Eden Park record, the Bledisloe or to Scotland (quite probable as other nations improve ), it wouldn't be long before even the general media and the majority of supporters that have a brain start criticizing and comparing unfavourably to Foster.

    Such an optimist.
    It's almost as if you want him to do badly to feel vindicated to a bunch of Polish chicks.

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    @Frank said in It’s Razor. Robertson New All Blacks coach.:

    It's almost you want him to do badly to feel vindicated to a bunch of Polish chicks.

    Hey you just gave his tired old vendetta a good reason!

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    @nostrildamus said in It’s Razor. Robertson New All Blacks coach.:

    @Frank said in It’s Razor. Robertson New All Blacks coach.:

    It's almost you want him to do badly to feel vindicated to a bunch of Polish chicks.

    Hey you just gave his tired old vendetta a good reason!

    Czesc

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    @Frank said in It’s Razor. Robertson New All Blacks coach.:

    Such an optimist.

    I'm a realist. The global game has changed and power has shifted to other countries (cyclical maybe?), we seem to have fallen behind on developing our players and other countries manage their player pool way better. The idea that this stuff can all be quickly put back in the box by simply changing head coach is horse-shit. That said, things like the AB XV are a big step in the right direction IMHO.

    It's almost as if you want him to do badly to feel vindicated to a bunch of Polish chicks.

    Mate, I want Robertson to be as good as people say he is - I really do. I even want him to be better than the bloke before Foster and put more than 50+ points on the Boks every game, but I'm also not starry-eyed and taken in by the hype. Progress in the 1st season will do me.

    And if he does badly I'll support and critique him as I would any other AB coach.

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    @nostrildamus said in It’s Razor. Robertson New All Blacks coach.:

    Hey you just gave his tired old vendetta a good reason!

    Nah. A vendetta would be Foster doing OK in RWC2023 & coaching Scotland or Japan to a first win over the AB's - at Eden Park.

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    Stuff also understands that Highlanders and former Wallabies team manager Paul McLaughlan has emerged as a strong candidate to replace the long-serving All Blacks manager Darren Shand, who announced last week that he will move on after the Rugby World Cup.

    The highly experienced McLaughlan was the Wallabies’ team manager under Dave Rennie before Rugby Australia sacked the New Zealander and replaced him with Eddie Jones last year

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    @Tim said in It’s Razor. Robertson New All Blacks coach.:

    Stuff also understands that Highlanders and former Wallabies team manager Paul McLaughlan has emerged as a strong candidate to replace the long-serving All Blacks manager Darren Shand, who announced last week that he will move on after the Rugby World Cup.

    The highly experienced McLaughlan was the Wallabies’ team manager under Dave Rennie before Rugby Australia sacked the New Zealander and replaced him with Eddie Jones last year

    Jeez crusaders, and now ABs, getting Ozzie hand-me-downs

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    What the Crusaders dynasty taught us about Scott Robertson

    What the Crusaders dynasty taught us about Scott Robertson

    The Crusaders lost one title during Scott Robertson's time at the helm: The Super Rugby Trans-Tasman title in 2021.

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    Tamati Ellison will also be involved with coaching defence in the national team’s setup.

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    Getting out of control now

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    @george33 How so? It's comparable with Fozzie's current coaching group and less than Eddie Jones' just assembled coaching group.

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